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To: Jacquerie
Would a Senate of the States

I do not dispute the merit of repealing the 17th amendment but I also must face the reality. The reality is that in order to repeal the 17th amendment 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states must agree.

I don’t see a path to that goal without a constitutional government. You have the legal right to demand that your representatives only legislate within the powers granted Congress in the Constitution.

34 posted on 05/09/2013 3:42:27 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows
Reform will not come from the Beltway denizens.

If we are to peacefully save what remains of our freedoms and regain what we lost, it is time for the States to call an Article V Constitutional Convention. If Congress does not head it off on its own to consider a single amendment, repeal of the 17th, we have little to lose. Our consolidated government ignores our unalienable rights, separation of powers and is arming itself to put down mass confrontation. If Congress ignores the threat and the States convene a convention, we risk no more than where we are already headed, a tyrannical government of unlimited powers bent on creating a perfect social justice Utopian hell.

The Framers gave us peaceful means to save our society and lives; let’s use them before stupidly watering the tree. More than half of the States opposed Obamacare. Resistance is in the air. Together, with the help of God, we just might save these United States.

35 posted on 05/09/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: MosesKnows
>> . . . legal right to demand that your representatives only legislate within the powers granted Congress in the Constitution.

That is certainly true. The problem is the lack of power, an enforcement mechanism. A Senate of the States used to provide that.

Today, we might as well howl at the moon. Once the States were booted from the Senate a hundred years ago, there was no structural means to limit the national government to enumerated powers or protect the Bill of Rights. James Madison correctly called Bills of Rights “parchment barriers” that were only as effective as the means to enforce them.

Consider the 1st Amendment. Freedom of the press is near sacrosanct. It is, not because the 1st Amendment says so; it is enforced because politicians know they will be abused in the press if they ever try to seriously impinge it.

With the 17th Amendment, the Framer's vertical separation of powers was removed and STRUCTURALLY made enforcement of enumerated powers, the Bill of Rights, and especially the 10th amendment an impossibility.

Absent State participation in the Senate, there is zero chance we will return to Constitutional freedoms.

36 posted on 05/09/2013 4:23:31 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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