Introduce him to his new roommate...
Posted on 05/07/2013 12:31:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
A 93-year-old man who was deported from the U.S. for lying about his Nazi past was arrested by German authorities Monday on allegations he served as an Auschwitz death camp guard, Stuttgart prosecutors said.
Hans Lipschis was taken into custody after authorities concluded there was "compelling evidence" he was involved in crimes at Auschwitz while there from 1941 to 1945, prosecutor Claudia Krauth said.
Lipschis has acknowledged being assigned to an SS guard unit at Auschwitz but maintains he only served as a cook and was not involved in any war crimes.
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Around 5,000 Japanese were convicted of war crimes after WW2.
I agree, there are a lot of people who should have been punished, and weren’t. But that’s hardly an excuse not to punish this person. (If he is, in fact, guilty)
I agree, and I have NO tolerance for Nazis, Commies, or dictators and their goons.
WWII ended 68 years ago. They are gonna have one hell of a time convicting him, and then what?
He’s 93; likely won’t live to see the end of the court wrangling.
I’ll say it again: give it a rest, already.
Just this last Saturday I visited Buchenwald in Germany. It was a very moving experience. You could feel what happened there. We must never forget and I don’t care how long it has been or what these people may have done between then and now to “redeem” themselves: they must be punished. An example must be made of them. What they did was unforgivable.
” But seriously, at 93, what are they going to do to him now?”
Take his dentures?
What? Eye witness testimony???? Even the chief hunters of the Nazi's , the Israeli Supreme Court let Demjanjuk go based on the value of “eyewitness” testimony and the probability that the Soviet's played hi-jinks with identity cards.
I went to my 30 year high school reunion a couple of years ago and you know what? After telling my most fond remembrances of my high school career, I had 2-3 guys tell me I was mistaken about details of stories and even in fact of some of the people that were supposedly involved. I was later proved wrong. Just about as often as my classmates were wrong when relating their most beloved memories.
“Memory is deceptive because it is colorized by today's events” Authored by Albert Einstein but nobody seems to remember exactly when or if.
Well, the reason is the Nazis lost their war.
The Chinese Commies and Soviets are really very much in power.
Maybe they led exemplary lives because there was no huge Nazi Party to join. Or maybe they were mainly concerned with saving their own putrid lives. I can’t believe you are calling Nazi hunting a farce.
And for those who are saying “give it a rest,” Never Again.
Dude, I'm not Jewish and I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but really: go to Germany or Poland and look at the facilities, look at the ovens, look at the blood-stained carts for corpses, look at the hundreds of pictures. Walk the earth where this happened and feel the souls.
Then tell me to give it a rest.
“But seriously, at 93, what are they going to do to him now?”
How about whatever he did to 93 year olds back in his day?
“Hans Lipschis”
If his Lipshis, my arse whistles!
Boom!
Yea, there would have to be compelling evidence of something he specifically did or he would have to have been in pretty high leadership, imho. Just being there is not enough.
Trying to convict every hoodwinked foot soldier just because is not a precedent to set, else everyone who has served in the US is at risk if the wrong sorts come to power.
You don't have a dog in this hunt?? You must be joking. Your page says you live in Seattle, are you a U.S. citizen? Because more than 400k U.S. citizens lost their like in World War II, and more than 670k wounded. You may want to parse out casualties from the Pacific, but I say B.S. to that. Besides which, Nazi Germany stood for everything your alleged country is against. I could go on, but why bother. Also, I don't know anything else about you, but I bet if I did, I could tell you many other reasons, "you DO have a dog in this hunt." If you really believe, "you don't have a dog in this hunt," then maybe you should renounce your U.S. citizenship and move to Switzerland. A neutral American. Pfft.
I was just deflecting the "you're Jewish (I'm not), so you're hypersensitive about the Holocaust" argument. Of course I have a "dog in the hunt" from the perspective of America vs. the Nazis in WWII!! Relax, Francis, I'm on your side!
Clearly Truman lost WWII since we are still engaged in catching the perps.
Or does only such logic apply to Bush?
Maybe he was there to provide abortion services. Safe, legal, rare, you know the kind.
As background, the Waffen-SS were front line troops. Some of those divisions were conscripts (examples like Prince Eugen, 15th SS Grenadier (1st Latvian)). If you were Germanic in countries outside of Germany, many were conscripted into these SS divisions. Those divisions served on the front lines the entire war. If you were unlucky enough to be wounded, you frequently were sent to be camp guards while you either recuperated prior to rejoining your unit or never recuperated but could still serve.
So your choice was to die to avoid being conscripted or serve, and if you survived combat on the losing side and were wounded, you could choose to die instead of being a camp guard - these guards were generally used outside the camp on the perimeter. Pretty hard choices for a poor 21 year old farm hand from romania, lativa, etc.
Humans have a very strong survival instinct and many can and do things, that sitting in our homes in comfort seem easy to say no to.
Not saying what this guy did was ok, not saying he should be forgiven, but folks here should at least understand the situation. None of us know what we would do in such situations if we have never faced them - and I for one, have fortunately, not yet, faced such things in my life. If I ever do, I hope I measure up.
Introduce him to his new roommate...
Was this guy wounded at the front lines?
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