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‘Government is not spying’ (American Community Survey - 2010 census)
The Garden Island ^ | May 1, 2013 | Dennis Rowley, Commander Ret. US Navy

Posted on 05/04/2013 1:46:58 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

I cannot sit silently after reading “Census Calling on Kaua`i” (April 29, 2013).

The article is counter to my personal experience and I feel compelled to share my experience with you.

In the article the statements made by Mr. Gene Henry of the American Community Survey are counter to fact. This is not a letter representing one party or another. It is not an attempt to sway you to opt out of the American Community Survey. It is simply a recitation of fact.

In 2010 my wife and I received a letter demanding that we participate in the ACS. The notification stated that compliance was mandated by law, and that failure to comply could result in my arrest and imprisonment. The questions asked were extremely intrusive, and I responded that I was opting out of the program.

My personal belief is that this “survey” is an intrusion that goes well beyond information that a citizen should be required to provide. Questions regarding personal income, personal habits, personal health and related subjects are subjects that I choose not to share with anyone.

As Mark Twain famously observed, “Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it.” In my opinion the government does not deserve to demand the information required by the ACS.

When I notified ACS that I chose to opt out we initially received letters notifying us that this was not an option. My continued refusal resulted in a number of phone calls threatening reprisal if we did not participate.

My wife received an unannounced visit by an ACS representative demanding that she answer the questions in the survey. She wisely suggested that the ACS contact me. The following is a direct quote of my letter of formal complaint to the U.S. Census Bureau following my unannounced visit from Mr. Henry, the field representative quoted in your article. He is describing me:

“I am a combat veteran and I see that Flag up there, but I don’t see an American in front of me.” 18 DEC 2010, 1320hrs

Your Field Representative Henry made this statement about me in front of my wife at our home in Hanapepe, Hawai`i. As she can attest, up to that point I was polite to Mr. Henry. He arrived unannounced and stopped us as we were entering our home carrying plate lunch.

I informed Mr. Henry that we were going in to eat, but he could come back in 30 minutes and I would speak with him. He insisted that he would require that I respond to the American Community Survey. His demeanor was combative, arrogant and demeaning.

I stated that as a matter of principle I chose to opt out of the survey.

Mr. Henry stated that he could view our IRS records and could turn us over to the Department of Justice. At that time he indicated the U.S. Flag that flies from my home every day, and made the offensive quote above. I am a retired U.S. Navy Commander who flew Huey gunships in Vietnam in support of the “brown water” Navy, the U.S. Army and the SEALS. For my service I was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, 23 Air Medals and two Vietnam Crosses of Gallantry. I went on to complete 21 years of service to my country as a Naval Aviator and U.S. Navy Test Pilot. When Mr. Henry made this most offensive comment I ordered him off my property. Please see to it that he never returns.

Perhaps the Department of Commerce feels that its representatives can treat a U.S. citizen in this manner. I prefer to think not. I want to know how your Department will act to discipline Mr. Henry for his callous treatment of a citizen while serving as your representative.”

I received a timely response from the U.S. Department of Commerce, U.S. Census Bureau apologizing for the conduct of Mr. Henry and stating that I would not again be approached to participate in the ACS. It is now apparent that Mr. Henry was not disciplined but continues in his position to (potentially) strong-arm the people of Kaua‘i into compliance.

For those of you who feel as strongly as I do I suggest you Google American Community Survey. You will learn that the threats of arrest and imprisonment for failure to participate are hollow threats.

I encourage every member of our community to examine their own beliefs and determine whether you want to share this information with the government. To paraphrase Mr. Twain, I don’t think that in this case the government deserves it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: acs; acsoptout; census; censussurvey; healthcare; privacy
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To: ElleK
AVOIDERS are the ones COSTING THE GOVERNMENT MONEY.

Please tell me you're kindding... The bureaucrats that send them are the ONLY ONES who are costing the TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

The rest of your post was difficult to stomach as well.
41 posted on 09/05/2013 11:17:01 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: DoughtyOne

So received long form for official census on 2010. I only answered questions they are required to ask for ten year census and not the others. They sent several demands, but nothing else happened.
Received this new ACS in July this year and then a second form in August. Two messages left on my voicemail, multiple calls from them....I do not answer (two per day). Today... Sunday at 10:47 am, we had a visit. Husband answered the door, dogs barking so he had to go out onto porch and shut door... Despite that I could hear every word this woman said, as she was shouting...”I am with US Government Census...you have failed to return your questionnaire. Husband told her we did return our census, she said that was different and this form was also required by law . I opened the door and told my husband he does not have to speak with her and she threatened me with fine and imprisonment. I told her I know my rights and she said I was ignorant of the law, but I said, perhaps so, but not ignorant regarding my rights.


42 posted on 11/03/2013 11:54:40 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: ElleK

If government has so much money they have to search out where to “dole it”, then I would posit we are Taxed enough already”! Also...you are no conservative.


43 posted on 11/03/2013 11:57:18 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: antceecee

Good for you! I love telling these Democrat retreads where to get off.


44 posted on 11/03/2013 9:31:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I could not understand why this woman was shouting when she spoke, but I think they are trained to do that so they are more intimidating.


45 posted on 11/03/2013 10:50:17 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: antceecee

Intimidation, pue and simple IMO. Not just you, but the neighbors as we’ll.

Plus, no doubt she was trying to embarrass you for not being a good citizen in front of those neighbors.


46 posted on 11/04/2013 1:51:54 AM PST by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
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