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To: tomkat
Annihilation: the Palestinians are well under control there, for the most part. That was my read. The business owners use them for the labor the owners don't want to do--dishwashers, waiters, cleaners, farm labor. That's what I saw.

The Arab Catholic guide we had on the Steve Ray tour told us of their persecution by the the Israel government. It's not a story one reads here. I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it. The Israels have every right in the world to defend themselves. Is is SUCH a one-sided battle. The Israeli whump the holy tar out of the Jihadists every time. They deserve it. Terrorism is a plague on humanity. The same battle goes on in India and Pakistani territories.

The Palestinian said that the Palestinian Muslims and Israeli government have been at it for as long as he remembers. The thing that struck most sour for the Palestinians was the taking of Palestinian land and homes. One guy still has the key to his grandmother's house in former Palestine. Ain't no more Palestine anymore. They LOST the world's shortest war--six days. Get over it.
They DO get on with their lives. Most Palestinians don't care who the government leaders are anymore--they mistrust all governments and their leaders.

My read on it. I was only there for three weeks.

WHAT a fabulous trip...Nazareth, Bethlehem, Cana, sea of Galilee (you'll eat "Peter's fish" at the local restaurant) and, of course, Calvary and Our Lord's tomb. I prayed at the rock where Jesus prayed--"Thy will be done." I laid my rosary on the very slab where they laid Jesus right off His Cross. And then, in His Tomb I was able to do nothing but weep and wonder.
EVERY Christian should visit the Holy Land.

The TOPPER was eating at a restaurant that was a memorial to Elvis Presley. Harhar, was that ever a nonsequiter or what. Naturally I had the requisite hamburger, fries and chocolate milk shake. Yummers.

There are a couple of photos there. I would post them but I have FORGOTTEN how to post images and graphics.

Any help would be muchly appreciated. Thank you.

27 posted on 05/04/2013 10:47:34 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
Annihilation: the Palestinians are well under control there, for the most part. That was my read.

Except when they deliberately murder the Israeli men, women, children, and babies ...

The business owners use them for the labor the owners don't want to do--dishwashers, waiters, cleaners, farm labor. That's what I saw.

That is just wrong on multiple levels;

  1. Business owners take risk and responsibility and are providing a service by offering anyone employment at all;
  2. In general there are relatively few Palestinians (defined as non-Israeli citizens) employed by Jewish Israelis (there are some, and they are fortunate to have work permits and employment) because, in general, the risk of them murdering people, or being coopted and used to murder people, is too great to allow large numbers without rigorous screening in granting any of them work permits.
  3. You are biased; you assume owners have never done all the work themselves at some point in their lives; have you ever washed dishes for money ? I have; lots of people have done that; work is work; are you too risk averse to start your own business and employ others but so willing to criticize those that do ? Rank hypocrisy
  4. Don't shop for food in this country; too much of it was picked by migrant labor and you wouldn't want to sully yourself doing that work yourself; rank hypocrisy; I have worked in the fields too.

The Arab Catholic guide we had on the Steve Ray tour told us of their persecution by the the Israel government. It's not a story one reads here. I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it.

What persecution ? providing access to Israeli jobs ? providing access to Israeli electricity ? providing access to Israeli medical care ? Or is it persecution to not allow palestinians free access anywhere in Israel so they can blow up Israelis ? Obviously you swallowed this nonsense but don't expect it to go unchallenged here.

38 posted on 05/04/2013 8:04:16 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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