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To: Kaslin

Truthfully, I have to agree with the military in this one, because of what I have seen in the past.

It is unfair to focus on just Christian or other religious proselytizing as being forbidden on the job, because a LOT of other things are also forbidden.

For example, icons of things considered racist, like Confederate flags, even if they aren’t, are a big no-no. The same with over political endorsements or attacks. You DO NOT do that during duty hours. I noticed that the Masons are very careful about connecting up during duty hours as well.

I knew one junior officer who got a “gag” plastic Voodoo skull sent to him by a friend of his. Within an hour he was visited by his battalion commander who told him to pack it up and take it home, as it had created great upset among the soldiers of the unit.

Even way back when, calling someone a homosexual slur was expressly forbidden, not because it would offend homosexuals, but because somebody might take it seriously, and go off violently against the target of the slur, thinking he was actually a homosexual.

Likewise, nobody ever was to say anything bad about somebody else’s mother. There is one guy in 10,000 who will go into a blind, homicidal rage if you do that.

But back to Christianity. Not too long ago, one particular sect of Christianity had control over a large part of the Air Force Academy, and became very abusive towards not just those of other, or no religions, but even against Christians of other sects. A whole bunch of people got fired because of that. Big scandal.

I saw a senior chaplain fired because he could not distinguish between military policy and the beliefs of his sect, blending the two when giving a lecture before not just US officers, but foreign officers as well. That came close to turning into an international incident.

There is plenty real discrimination against Christians hither and yon, but nothing I’ve seen of late of what the military is doing is any different in a substantial way.

Yes, feel free to share your faith. DO NOT do so during duty hours. Isn’t that clear enough?


38 posted on 05/03/2013 10:04:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"Not too long ago, one particular sect of Christianity had control over a large part of the Air Force Academy, and became very abusive towards not just those of other, or no religions, but even against Christians of other sects."

I live in Colorado, and am aware of these general allegations of abuse at the Academy, but have found little specifics reported anywhere, other than the complaint that so many people were in Bible Study groups that cadets who did not want to join Bible Study groups felt like "outsiders" ---which is pretty silly. Please specify widespread behaviors that were "abusive."

Mikey Weinstein was very very involved in making and encouraging these "complaints."

49 posted on 05/03/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You posted a lot of examples as to why you agree with the Military on the decision they made.

But in the end - you are simply afraid of a Bible on a desk.

Think about what this says about you.


60 posted on 05/03/2013 12:07:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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