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Ron Paul slams Boston police. Has he gone too far?
Yahoo! News ^ | 04/30/2013 | Peter Grier

Posted on 04/30/2013 4:15:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Ron Paul, in a posting on the website of a libertarian activist, accused US law enforcement of 'a military-style occupation of an American city' in its response to the Boston bombing. Former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul has slammed US law enforcement for responding to the Boston Marathon bombing with “police state tactics.” In a post on the website of libertarian activist Lew Rockwell, Mr. Paul said Monday that the governmental reaction to the tragic explosions was worse than the attack itself...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: boston; bostonbombing; bostonpd; leo; ronpaul
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To: freedomfiter2

it is a criminal government drunk with power


21 posted on 04/30/2013 4:38:23 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If I was Ron Paul, I’d wonder what they mean by “too far” and exactly what are the ramifications of such a trespass.


22 posted on 04/30/2013 4:41:37 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: cripplecreek

Not really true that the posse or commitees of vigilance trampled the constitution. That is indeed the revisionist meme in todays hit western movies, but the facts of frontier America simply do not bear it out. Quite the opposite is normally true.


23 posted on 04/30/2013 4:42:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Warrantless searches are the actions of a criminal government.

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...”

Were searches reasonable? Was anyone arrested because of something the police saw as they were searching the homes?

I agree with people saying the police seemed pretty rough about it.


24 posted on 04/30/2013 4:43:40 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Satayana and doomed to repeat him)
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To: yldstrk
citizen’s arrest works way better than those thugs and their over the top freak show

The old timers tell me the story their parents told them about the last lynching in these parts. Seems they burned down at least 3 different barns before finding the guy they were after. Then they hung him before the sheriff arrived.

From my historical reading, that kind of thing was pretty common among posses. They didn't worry too much about search warrants or destruction of property in those days.
25 posted on 04/30/2013 4:44:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Makes me wonder what would have happened if someone refused to leave their home. Buttstroke him in front of his kids? Arrest him?


26 posted on 04/30/2013 4:46:29 PM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Did the Boston police and the FBI go to far? This is the question.

What did Ron Paul do?


27 posted on 04/30/2013 4:46:48 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ron Paul, you anti-American hack! The force was necessary so that the terrorist was caught. The government must do this to protect the population. Hacks like Ron Paul make big fuss over our law enforcing heroes saving lives by putting themselves in danger. Do I need a sarcasm?


28 posted on 04/30/2013 4:49:16 PM PDT by sagar
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To: cripplecreek
S'ok. Cops in Cali shot up a pickup that only Stevie Wonder could confuse with the perp truck and shot up an innocent woman.

I'm not seeing much difference in your scenarios, except with the cops, we're paying for it. With vigilence commitees, they paid for it.

And after it was all over with, in Boston, it wasn't the cops that found the guy. It was a citizen. So yes, doing nothing is a valid option.

/johnny

29 posted on 04/30/2013 4:49:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

Mob justice vs jack booted thugs. Surely there is a constitutional middle ground?


30 posted on 04/30/2013 4:49:39 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Gefreiter
I wouldn't have left. Local constabulary understands they need a warrant on this property.

They can, of course, just kill me, but they can only do that once.

/johnny

31 posted on 04/30/2013 4:51:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek

Additionally, the Boston police, while good in some ways, showed an astounding lack of skill in some huge ways. The first shootout caught on youtube sounded like a protracted firefight. But they were facing one pistol.
This resulted in no kill on one till he was run over, and the other escaping. For contrast, witness the shootout in Texas when the cops there stopped the guy who was on the run for escaping the murder of the prison warden. It ended right there, because the shooting was up to par.

Then they began a search of every building, treating innocent people disrespectfully. They acted like they were scared, playing army.
The low quality of their search was revealed when a homeowner found the bad guy after the search ended. (as he could have much more quickly had there been no 10,000 cop police state)

Then when Boston PD moved in again, they unleashed another horrendous fulisade that was caught on youtube. But the terrorist was unarmed.

They do indeed need some corrective criticism. But there are probably limits on how good an east coast department can be. They simply do not shoot as a lifestyle like people in Texas or New Mexico do.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 4:53:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve noticed no one has a solution for a better way for Law Enforcement to have approached the hunt for two murderous terrorist thugs.


33 posted on 04/30/2013 4:53:53 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Actually what Paul said to that nutcase Rockwell was that the actions of the police while protecting the people were worse than the actions of the terrorists who precipitated those actions.

Outrageous and disgusting.

Reminds me of when he called the IDF soldiers who were protecting their country “pirates.”


34 posted on 04/30/2013 4:54:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life, liberty, property, family, RKBA, sovereignty, security, borders, independence, the oath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thomas Lucente: American liberty died in Boston where it was born

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3013387/posts


35 posted on 04/30/2013 4:56:10 PM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: JimSEA
Surely there is a constitutional middle ground?

That's all I'm suggesting and it won't be perfect. If you've got good strong local law enforcement leadership with a firm constitutional streak, a posse of trusted folks would be good. In this case I don't think it would have taken much to convince people to stay off the street. Even easier if they can be armed in their homes. Just go door to door and ask if they've seen anything. If the folks answer the door armed, its a safe bet that the perp isn't there.

The feds are a whole different issue.
36 posted on 04/30/2013 4:58:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Next time there is a terrorist attack call 1-800-RON-PAUL.


37 posted on 04/30/2013 5:00:03 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: SoldierDad
Cops and governments can't fix all problems. Sometimes leaving problems alone and letting a constitutional rule of law work is the best solution.

Demands to "DO SOMETHING! NOW!" are a sure way to trample freedoms.

/johnny

38 posted on 04/30/2013 5:00:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Owl558
Were searches reasonable?

That takes a citizen or a group of citizens filling a lawsuit. If nobody files, then there is no claim they weren't....

39 posted on 04/30/2013 5:01:15 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: windsorknot
I don't call when there are problems. I call when cleanup is required. The reflex to call on government to fix problems is where freedom got lost.

/johnny

40 posted on 04/30/2013 5:03:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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