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The gay and trans population is tiny. The fact that so much time is spent talking about them and their problems is amazing to me.

On the issue of Jason Collins, gay basketball player. The point about locker rooms was brought up today by Geraldo on his radio show. His guest, a gay sports announcer, said that although he was sexually attracted to males when he went into the locker rooms he was in “professional mode” and he never did so much as take a peek. While this may be true I think that he missed the point of Geraldo’s question which was basically: if a gay man can go into a male locker room than why can’t a straight man go into a female one? He had no answer to the question.

Here’s my solution: facilities should have a third bathroom for gay men, gay women and gay or straight transgenders. It makes perfect sense. The gay guys will NOT be looking at the lesbians. The lesbians will likewise NOT be looking at the gay men. The transgenders, who are by definition “in between” genders should share facilities with gays and lesbians because the are in transition. Straight men and women are not in transition, they have already settled on their sexual orientation and their gender. Therefore it is unfair to them to group them with individuals who are not “settled” because they will not know the true orientation of the trans person based upon physical attributes or professed preference in regards to orientation.

This arrangement would put the issue to bed. But, something tells me that it might not go over with some on the gay-trans side of the equation. But why?

The problem is that traditional groupings of men and women are based upon normal physical endowments and sexual preferences. The reason that a bunch of guys can be naked around each other is because they do NOT desire males sexually. Vice versa for the women. When you start to define sexuality on alternates to this basic, natural arrangement you inevitably open a can of worms.

Think about it this way. It is unfair to straight males to have gay males using the same locker rooms. But at the same time putting all gay males into a separate room is the same as putting straight males and straight females into a shared room, based upon the sexual attraction. Ditto for lesbians. So you have a problem as to where to put them. This is why my idea for Homo-Trans bathrooms makes sense because the presence of the opposite GENDER combined with the opposite ORIENTATION would basically cancel everything out with the Trans individuals bridging the gap between the two diametrically opposed camps.

The best way to get out in front of this issue would be to start a campaign by hetero people to force facilities to create these 3rd type bathrooms/locker rooms. They would not have to be as large as hetero rooms because as a percentage of the population gay/trans individuals represent a small proportion... maybe 5% total. The average man or woman on the street would find it hard to argue AGAINST having separate rooms based upon existing gender and orientation differentiations: i.e. Men and Women bathrooms and locker rooms. For instance “we already divide genders and orientations” so why would you be against further divisions that seek to address additional differences which everybody accepts as being real and legitimate... the fact that gay/trans people exist.

I think this approach solves a real problem for the hetero community and also makes a salient political point at the same time.


28 posted on 04/30/2013 1:33:41 PM PDT by Al Gore Vidal
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To: Al Gore Vidal

RE: Here’s my solution: facilities should have a third bathroom for gay men, gay women and gay or straight transgenders. It makes perfect sense. The gay guys will NOT be looking at the lesbians. The lesbians will likewise NOT be looking at the gay men.

Can I pretend to be gay so that I can go to the women’s lockers and ogle at them? I promise to be in “professional mode”. :)


35 posted on 04/30/2013 7:17:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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