[Vaquero]

[ChildOfThe60s]

The government that would limit law-abiding citizens to some seven bullets to defend their families and their homes still has some explaining to do

Not necessary. The reason for our limits and their non-limits is quite clear. They don't want any of their jack booted thugs to get hurt when they storm your house in violation of the 4th amendment.

Nothing to do with crime, saving the taxpayer money (LOL) or any other BS reason they put forth.

[tumblindice]

An enraged Barack Obama lashed out at Congress and “willing liars”

You’re tied in a knot
But I’m not gonna get caught
Calling a pot kettle black
Every song’s a comeback
Every moment’s a little bit later

Lazy locomotives
Wherever you may roll
I think you have no motive
I know you have no home

Take a couple Midol, Barry.

[GenXteacher]

But, but, but.....Free Republic’s resident GOP-E shills said that its just normal government purchasing..../sarc

[G Larry]

Hey Barack!

Would you like to be specific about the rebuttals you consider to be “lies”.

The only lying going on is from your quarters.

Anytime you’d like to debate the issue in public, just let us know.

[mosaicwolf]

This is so much BS. First of all, how many of you shooters out there that are interested in reducing the cost of recoil therapy use hollow point or PDA rounds? I for one that shoots regularly use FMJ rounds for training and hollow points for operational ammo (Read: Carry ammunition). This saves a lot of $$$. I wish some of these congress critters knew the right questions to ask these Bolshevik bureaucrats.

[TLI]

An enraged Barack Obama lashed out at Congress and "willing liars" who defeated efforts to expand federal gun control laws.

"Willing liars."

Yeah, THAT's Presidential, huh?

Throwing a tantrum on TV because he can't get rid of a Constitutional right for all American Citizens because HE doesn't like it ranks right up there with a third grade playground bully.

What a screeching bitch...

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[Chode]

said the Willing Liar in CHIEF!!!

[frankenMonkey]

"...while the Army goes through roughly 350 per officer..."

If they are really meaning Army officers, not including enlisted, the numbers are meaningless.

By the way, I visited two gun shops yesterday, both had plenty 5.56 available, at 60 cents per round. (and yes, I know that's more than what we paid back in the day...)

[familyop]

Some government men are calm and levelheaded. Other government administrators and employees, in a hysterical panic, wanted to hoard and stock up on ammunition for when the “SHTF” happens in “TEOTWAWKI” and stop the waves of imaginary “zombies” from attacking them. They see in their minds, a conspiracy by jabbering Walter Mittys (and Mitty-ettes: a tiny minority of discussion board constituents, often aged, crippled, homebound, alone, etc.) against them.

[familyop]

In short and essence, rule by post-menopausal hysteria.

[stevie_d_64]

Ok, if you go back and do a little digging...

The contract(s) are divided into 6, separated by calibers...The largest “contract” to deliver 450 million rounds over a 5 year period is the .40

The next major caliber “contract is for the .223, that is for 165 million rounds...

The other four contracts, “calibers”, round out the amount that is floating around their website (DHS)...

Combine that with range times, annual qualifications, and some practicing over a 5 year period, it fares out to a slightly higher than normal LEO proficiency squedule...

I was told that the number of shooters this purchase will support for a 5 year period will be 17,000...

Do the math anyway you see fit...I will not argue your findings...

But be aware, the deliveries of these ammunition lots will not be in one big swoop...It’ll come in smaller lots over the 5 year period...

My sources are three US congressmen, two of which are on the full DHS committee, and one is on the full Finance committee...I have an ICE agent who is on the DHS staff as a congressional advisor, who I have had very good conversations with over the last couple of months...

On the surface it is prudent to be skeptical of the purchase, and th elack of transparency of the DHS cabinet member...I still have my guard up, and would be surprised if we ever get them to publically admit to what their intent is...But be aware, the figures do add up, it does look a little excessive, but they got their money and are spending it, not expecting to be questioned about it...

And we are asking the right questions of the right people...When you stop believing what you see and hear on the internet, and in the news, and go to the effort to ask the right questions of the right people, and not in any way shape or form of accusation, or seeking some truth to some conspiracy, you might get a straight answer...

But then again, when you really get right down to it...You have to realize, they cannot match us if the intent is to somehow keep us loccked down...Sure, it may get rough, but the numbers are STILL on our side...

I just don’t see it goinjg that far, without us seeing it coming down the highway with full lights and sirens on...We’ll see it coming way before then...

BTW, the reports of MRAP’s 30+ is true...not 2700...

The 7000+ “personal defensive weapons” is still up for grabs...

And the sneeky one is the mobile “armored” checkpoint booths being purchased...

I’m still looking into that...It takes time to smooze the question, and get a good answer without sounding like a goob...

But hey...I too was caught up in the whole thing like a lot of people, so I said why can’t we get a straight answer from those that see the PO’s and budgets from these departments??? Right???