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To: Vaquero
also I am waiting for the return of ‘burn notice’ which has started to jump the shark a bit

I'm with you on that one.

You can measure the decline of a show by how the themes of episodes start changing. Burn notice had the perfect formula years ago. There was a complete story in each episode and a small sub-plot that ran from episode to episode as kind of a back ground thing. Then the sub-plots start to take over and the shows get more and more personal and less and less practical and/or believable until they devolve into a dramatic late night soap opera that runs a plot week to week for months until you end up with "Lost".

Suits went this way in one season, unfortunately. The writers forgot that the genius kid had a photographic memory that would be helpful to win legal cases. The characters all changed so the kid is a loser. Harvey grew a heart, etc. It became a soap opera wholly dependent on the previous show. It's not about solving cases anymore, it's about a law firm and their internal battles and survival.

NCIS has started down this road. Law and Order went this way and tried to recover when the formula failed. I quit watching Burn Notice after they were left in South America and the CIA tried to have them killed. Too much for me.

The Mentalist is in the same category but seems to be barely keeping some balance. If I find myself having to watch recorded episodes in order they aired to follow what's going on, I'm out. To much effort. :o)

60 posted on 04/26/2013 6:50:54 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Tenacious 1
The Mentalist is in the same category but

I watched it until Red John (duh!) became central.

With TM, I counted at 6 other TV shows that had the background premise of a major character having had parent(s) or spouse/kids killed by some ominous killer who is still on the loose.

Hollywood does NOT have very many script ideas and even fewer program concepts. Most are just rehashings of a similar.

I have actually got to the point to where, 90% of the time, 10 minutes into the detective/police/crime agency program, I can pick out the one who is going to end up being the killer in the 'twist' revealed at the end of the episode. It's easy. Just watch for the writer's pattern to develop and oh yeah that's him/her.
72 posted on 04/26/2013 7:48:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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