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Arabic/Islamic names are: 1) lengthy 2) commonly misunderstood by Westerners 3) not properly accomodated by Western computer systems

The word "bin" or "ibn" means "son of" and may be present a number of times in a person’s name, as Saudi names are indicators of genealogy.

Abu added to the name of a Married man indicates that he is father of the child of the same name. Abu Haroon means father of Haroon.

Another common name structure is having "Abd" followed by an attribute of God with the definite article "al-." Hence, "Dr. Abd-Al-Rahman Al-Hajj" would be addressed as "Dr. Abd Al-Rahman" and not as "Dr. Abd" or "Dr. Abd Al."

Arabic names may be written "Abdul (something)", but "Abdul" means "servant of the" and is not, by itself, a name. Thus for example, to address Abdul Rahman bin Omar al-Ahmad by his given name, one must say "Abdul Rahman", not merely "Abdul". If he introduces himself as "Abdul Rahman" (which means "the servant of the Merciful"), one must not say "Mr. Rahman" (as "Rahman" is not a family name but part of his (theophoric) personal name); instead it would be Mr. Ahmad, being the family name).


Components of an Arabic Full Name

Hypocoristic,  Given-Name,  Patronym,  Family-Name,   Nisbah


The White House Guest Log

The White House guest log has provision for First, Middle Initial, and Last names.

The name of interest appears in a variety of forms:
 
1. ABDULRAHMAN A ALHARBI
2. Abdulrahman S Alharbi
3. Abdulah M Alharbi
4. SAUDMARZOUQR ALHARBI


Analysis:

The names have been entered improperly. Properly formatted the names are:

  Hypocoristic   Given-Name   Patronym   Family-Name   Nisbah   Comment
1.   Abdul Rahman   Al Harbi   middle initial "A"? Al Saud?
2.   Abdul Rahman   Al Harbi   middle initial "S"? Saud?
3.   Abdula (?)   Al Harbi   middle initial "M"? Marzouqr?
4. Marzouqr(?)     Al Harbi Saud Marzouqr means blessed or fortunate

The full name appears to be:
 
  Marzouqr Abdul Rahman Al Harbi Saud
 
These may all be the same person.

References:
www.the-saudi.net/business-center/business-etiquette.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_name
www.dawanet.com/nonmuslim/intro/names/struc1.html
www.basistech.com/knowledge-center/arabic/behind-the-arabic-name.pdf
islam.worldofislam.info/ index.php?option=com_content &view=article &id=90:name-structuring-muslimarab-names
283 posted on 04/25/2013 1:08:29 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76

That is all quite true. Add to that the fact that they can, and often do, add and subtract names as they please or are given names that are added onto by others. One arab name could fill an entire page in a small print telephone book.

This name, for instance, could mean that he is under saud protection like an adopted son.
I know that they buried osama like royalty giving him all the rank of a favored prince. The rituals were carried out to the most minute detail by the highest ranking sunni imam, including the unmarked grave so that he would not be worshipped by any of his followers.


284 posted on 04/25/2013 1:55:24 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Ray76

Interesting. Thanks.

Ultimately, the people who have given materials to Congress members and Glenn Beck know what the story is. If 10 whistleblowers within the government, Glenn Beck, and 10 members of Congress can’t get this to go anywhere, then it’s never going to go anywhere. Any time I invest in it is wasted because I can’t add anything that these guys haven’t already provided. Time for me to focus on stuff I can actually do something about.


291 posted on 04/25/2013 6:50:17 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Ray76
Bookmark!

Thank you for that research---an education in itself and certain to come in handy as we encounter more and more of these jihadists.

Anything is possible re: these Alharbi WH visits, but we need more information.

Did you look at ALL the fields in the log? Only 4 screenshots have been posted, and looking at it online is difficult because the fields (at least on my laptop) run out of view from the scroll button below to slide right, but it is worth a look if you continue to research this angle.

One field displays the number of people in the party signing in. IIRC, all of the 7 were in groups over 100 and designated as a Tour, except for 1 person, #3, who was in a group of 18, IIRC. I spent some time studying this one, but I didn't/couldn't make screenshots of all of the fields of the seven people.

Granting even that fact may not necessary be what it suggests, but as it stands, we have NO proof yet that the Saudi national visited the WH, none whatsoever.

PS: full, full name of Saudi national I have seen reported a few times is

Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Al-Harbi

Thanks again for that research. It is excellent.

PPS: This was just posted today

Saudi [Sheikh Awad bin Abdul Aziz bin Saifi Al Qarni] Dies at 120; Leaves 98-Year Old Son, 446 Other Progeny

296 posted on 04/25/2013 4:11:07 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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