Posted on 04/24/2013 10:16:25 AM PDT by blueyon
You’re missing the point
Aug 28 2012 - al-Harbi enters Boston on a special student visa
Apr 15 2013 - al-Harbi is injured at Boston Bombing and tackled by alert citizens
These each are different al-Harbi’s?
These are different than the one(s) on the WH guest log?
Right. But it actually makes more sense that somebody else preceded him, if he had to get a visa. He couldn’t have been in the country without having a visa, could he? That’s why it doesn’t make sense to me for him to have visited the White House before his point of entry - unless he was part of a diplomatic delegation or something. Do they have to have visas to come into the US? When Ahmadinejad came to the US to speak at the UN, did he have a US visa?
I don’t have a passport, visa, or anything. I don’t know how this stuff works. Can somebody clue me in? How could Alharbi visit the White House - as a visitor or anything else - in 2009 if his point of entry was on Aug 28, 2012?
Do you have a source for that?
Dang. My desktop won’t allow me to install the speaker driver, and my laptop is acting as if we don’t have a wireless network here - a problem that showed up out of the blue this afternoon; had been connecting to the wireless fine before.
Sigh.
Thanks for the link. I’ll have to figure out a way to see it.
And the guy who is being called AbdulRahman Alharbi is actually Hamza Bin Laden after some surgeries to disguise him, according to facial recognition expert MestaMachine.
A bunch of switching around with names, just like has been done to hide the records for Stanley Ann Dunham - and which supposedly (according to the first version of the claims....) kept DHS from knowing about Tamarlan’s Russia trip.
Wait a minute. What did Walid Shoebat say about the Alharbis who are associated with Al Qaeda, and which are known to be close relatives of AbdulRamann? Unfamiliarity with the names and how they work is confusing things, I think.
He (3 and 4 have same name---and appts on same days) or the others could be related to the Saudi national but we have no proof so far.
Why didn’t she visit the hero who had his legs blown off?
My point of view is that there is only one name on the WH log that has the same name as Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, the Saudi national suspect. It is the first name on the screenshot, #1 AbdulRahman A Alharbi.
Since #1’s date of appointment is 12/04/09, I do not think he is the Saudi national.
That was the only point I was trying to make.
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According to Beck, al-Harbi means “of the clan of Harbi”. Sort of like Ben Harbi would mean “the son of Harbi”.
I need to listen again to what Walid Shoebat said about this guy’s family, to try to understand how wide-ranging a clan is and which of them would be considered his immediate family. Unfortunately, I’d have to go to the office to be able to hear that again.
But it’s all a smokescreen because this guy at the hospital is actually Osama Bin Laden’s son Hamza, not an Alharbi. The name was either stolen from somebody else or a cover identity created when he had the plastic surgery to alter his ears (and possibly other features as well). But the bone structure can’t be altered, and it is that of Bin Laden’s son, according to facial recognition expert MestaMachine. And for the “known terrorist” classification to be slapped on him so quickly (Tuesday at 4pm) after the Monday evening investigation there must have been something VERY convincing. Especially since whistleblowers are risking 20 years in prison in order to report the shenanigans at DHS to members of Congress and to Beck.
I suspect DNA testing confirmed that this was Bin Laden’s son. They took his clothes from the hospital, to analyze it for evidence, and could easily have found DNA to use for an analysis, which takes 8 hours if rushed. Hardraade has suggested that somebody knew about Hamza in advance and alerted the investigation. My suggestion is former CIA head David Petraeus, who has lots of reasons to want the truth about the terrorist Barack Obama to be known to the world.
So Dec 4, 2009 is the name that exactly matches the name associated with the guy in the hospital. But his point of entry is 2 1/2 years later, on Aug 28, 2012 - and he was allowed a visa without any background check because he had special permission, 3 days after some other Alharbi visited the White House.
Could be related events, but we need more info.
Same with Hamza/Saudi national. He could be Hamza, but we need more info.
There have been a series of denials that have turned out to be misdirection and/or lies. In my opinion an explanation is in order.
Abdula / Abdul Rahman has visited multiple times.
yes, but 3 & 4 have a different middle initial than #1.
I agree-— an avalanche of misdirection and/or lies.
Obama Adm wants the details off the public’s mind as quickly as possible so they can write their own narrative to suit their purposes.
We have seen this before -— Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Obamacare, and on and on and on...
We may need more info, if facial recognition is not enough. But the folks at the CIA and DHS (I don’t know who created that “known terrorist” file...) more than likely have a DNA result. Is that enough information?
They apparently believe the evidence of him being a terrorist is certain enough to stake a 20-year prison sentence on it. I’d say that’s pretty confident.
Do you always use your middle initial or name?
Someday the complete and true/accurate details of the Bush’s relationship to the Saudis will be exposed. My guess is such will show what Bush1 meant when he said ‘there will be a new world order’ and it won’t be what the Founders intended.
Maybe 3, 4, and 7 are the same.
This doesn’t prove anything, but it is suspicious. I think there is something very serious afoot.
Whoah, butter! You are jumping to way too many conclusions here. First of all, what I do involves a whole lot more than ‘facial recognition’. Please stop bandying my name around as a facial recognition expert. It minimizes me to something that puts me in a box and does not do justice to who I am or what I actually do.
Secondly, all of the conjecture about plastic surgeries and the like is unnecessary. He didn’t need it. If you look at ALL the photographs plus the video, nothing has been changed.
Thirdly, the admin would already have known from the gitgo exactly who he was and their first encounter did not just happen lately.
There is a lot more to this, but the direction you are taking is wrong. I just woke up and saw this and I am nowhere near well enough to try and explain all the places this speculation has gone off the rails.
Hardraade called it a ‘snap’ id, It wasn’t. You don’t just snap to an id like that. There are countless other points of verification and they ALL have to match up. He does.
But the rest of it is just wrong. I am sorry, but it is.
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