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To: Jeff Winston; Carry_Okie

I’m not going to waste hours arguing with anyone about the meaning of the 14 th amendment. To anyone who isn’t an open border hack, the meaning was NEVER to allow illegal aliens to drop babies here and have them be citizens. NEVER!

DONE with this discussion!


23 posted on 04/24/2013 12:42:40 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB; JCBreckenridge
I’m not going to waste hours arguing with anyone about the meaning of the 14 th amendment. To anyone who isn’t an open border hack, the meaning was NEVER to allow illegal aliens to drop babies here and have them be citizens. NEVER!

The Senators passing the Amendment, at the time, seem to have felt that it would declare the children of foreigners TEMPORARILY in the country to be citizens. They don't seem to have contemplated the issue of illegal aliens.

So yes, I agree with you that the intention was not to allow illegal aliens to drop babies here and have them be citizens.

Historically, if you go back into the origin of our rule of citizenship, it required "allegiance" or "obedience." I think prohibiting the children of illegal aliens from being US citizens at birth is certainly within the spirit of the citizenship rule, and it might even clear the "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" hurdle of the 14th Amendment. I'm not sure whether it would or wouldn't, but Congress could pass such a law and then we could hand it over to the courts to find out.

24 posted on 04/24/2013 12:53:27 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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