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To: knarf

so you think”probable cause” gives the police cart Blanche to do warrant less searches over a 26 mile urban area?


84 posted on 04/23/2013 6:35:11 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak

The question is not that they are allowed to do the warrantless searches

The question really is when does it go too far.

Unfortunately, that is subjective.

I use this example from a different state. I think it was WEST COAST.

A LEO was killed on the scene. Warrantless searches were done for 4 days of the murder scene under the murder exception.

Evidence thrown out.

We might be okay with that kind of massive manhunt type searches under certain circumstances but not other circumstances.

Right now, I am not comfortable with them given the MUZZIE lover in Office with a missing Saudi terrorist and an Attorney General that wants to limit citizens rights - such as expanding the public safety exemption on the Miranda warning.


94 posted on 04/23/2013 6:45:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Kozak; RummyChick
We tend to think using OUR mindset for reference (which is normal, IMO)

I remember the day this happened because I was outside doing some yardwork when my neighbor came out and told me, "Yeah .. it just happened" .. and I came inside to vegetate the rest of the day in front of the computer.

The first thing I saw was the Globe video of the finish line explosions and I was immediately transformed back to 1968 when in the middle of a night-time demonstration (Yup .. native Bostonian .. it was in Boston .. ) and someone set off an M-80 (fireworks) ... absolute panic.

Now .. what I'm saying is ... in the absence of intell or information that directs our thoughts, we're pretty much on survival instinct as to what we do.

Now to tie this in with the police search(es) .. (I've only watched that one video) .. We get our information in the comfort of our homes drinking coffee with the dog or cat demanding attention, not out in the street.

If I suspected (almost all initial "evidence" demands the forensic minded to be analytically "suspicious") a dangerous person next door ... (or perhaps none of those kids were actually watching TV but re-spinning Abbey Road, drinking wine and passing a dooby) .. I would want someone to warn me.

Was the search and demand overmuch? Prob ably ... but we have the advantage of hindsight to assist in our thought processes, and these guys probably expected a fight of some kind.

With all the prepper talk here in FR ... is any one of us not prepared to take a stand and fight?

While in that stance, are we aware of every bit of intell available or are we standing in front of our homes and staring at the BATF in our driveway?

WHAT are we gonn'a do and when will we do it?

There's a lot more going on here than this video .. disturbing as it may seem.

102 posted on 04/23/2013 6:59:07 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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