Posted on 04/23/2013 5:20:35 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
Edited on 04/23/2013 5:30:29 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
As you probably have heard, a few days ago Bill Maher shocked his liberal guest -- and much of the world -- by stating very correctly and succinctly that it is "liberal (BS) to equate Christianity and Islam with respect to terror.
The bluntness, not to mention the shocking accuracy of the statement from this particular source, had the social media universe all lit up over the weekend. It was surely my first "fist pump" ever in response to Maher.
Moreover, it is very instructive when juxtaposed with a not so shocking statement made in an interview over the same weekend by former President George W. Bush in the run-up to the opening of his "Presidential Center."
Bush was not much better then the current rodent in the White Hut, his drug benefit was the LARGEST transfer of wealth in the history of the world, let’s not forget his auto bailout and TARP, his support of amnesty, he and his dad destroyed the Reagan policies that RR had in place.
His dad, him and his brothers are nothing more the New World Order socialists just like Karl Rove......
Do not forget that the republicans in both house’s aided the democrats in the passage of Obamacare, “Death to Patients” act.
Thanks, and interesting that over on Lucianne, a site with many more estab type defenders, about half the folks are angry at this one. More understanding of the truth on FR than Lucianne IMO....
It’s hard for me to get over the fact that he didn’t lie about the WMD, but then because it was moved to Syria he couldn’t talk about it and instead let the left keep on with their taunting... And then to say later on that he had “made a mistake” - when no mistake on our part was made in re: to Iraq made it that much worse...
To this day I have to tell people - there WAS WMD - what we found (and we did find some!) was a drop in the bucket compared to what had been moved to Syria... Even now - when Obama’s own people say - these chemical weapons were from Iraq - they choose to ignore everything.
Bush didn’t lie, but because he didn’t defend himself (or maybe couldn’t for some reason) there won’t be any hope of getting some people back on the side of reality in re: to Iraq and Afghanistan - or even looking forward to what we’re dealing with today in our own country, or with Iran, and definitely not going to help them understand Libya, Egypt, and now Syria itself...
Sorry for the mini-rant... I have respect for George W, even though I disagreed with him on some things - especially domestically. Compared to Obama - well, there is NO comparison as one was a President and the other is a traitor. On this issue though I absolutely think he should have defended the war vociferously, and berated the press when they attacked him day after day.
It couldn’t have done more harm than where we are now, imo.
I hear ya. That was the beginning of the frustrations with their anemic PR strategy. I have no clue why they let so many falsehoods take root. It was horribly damaging to our country.
I reluctantly ended up at the same conclusion. There was a lot of successes and a lot to celebrate during those eight years, but in the end it was a failure. Mostly due to the complete collapse of public opinion. I generally look at Bush’s term in two parts, the first four years were largely good (obviously, we can pick at some of his domestic policies as problematic). As a party, we also faired well gaining seats in 2002 and getting to 55 Senate seats by 2004. Largely, he performed as a successful CIC and leader. The second term was a flop. The floor dropped out on all fronts. The economy sank, the war policy (despite the right call on the surge) was horribly unpopular, and the party collapsed. I give him high marks for the 1st four, and a solid F for the second.
You are exactly correct! There was, there was obvious proof of WMD’s with the gassings prior to the war. That’s all that needed to be said. He should have never apologized for that. Only a fool would believe otherwise. But, then again, half of this country are fools.
Yes, a reluctant, unhappy conclusion indeed. What Bush (and Rove) never realized is that what you say as President is as much, and maybe MORE, important than what you do. When you are a Republican President, you represent all conservatives, the concept of free enterprise, a strong national defense, etc - whether you really believe in those things or not. That’s how our system works.
When Bush refused to fight in the arena of ideas, he was selling conservatives, free enterprise, etc, down the river.
Bill Haher speaking common sense!
Amazing!
Maybe Ann Coulter has stumbled upon a new way to convert libs.
You know, I don’t give a crap what Maher thinks when he spouts lib spew..
I don’t care when he removes his head from his rectum...
He’s irrelevant.
Convert them to her shrill RINO ways? She has lost majority of her credibility endorsing Jumbo Christie and the likes.
Freeloading pimp.
Or looked at another way, absolutely 100% on topic of A: Bush Library opening, B: Maher’s comments, C: Boston terror attacks D: media reaction to Boston terror attacks E: Freepers response to article.
Relevance is what it is.
And what did we have to celebrate after 4/20?
I think he's growing up. He'll never be conservative but he's gotten to the point where he can now see that there's a lot of idiocy on the left. Previously, he was blind to it. I'll never watch him either.
We caught the terrorists?
That's true, but this reinforces my theory, it does not weaken it. I am focusing on the ideas that Bush, Bush 41, McCain, Rove, all RINOs, have in common. It's not about blaming Bush for all of it, it's about identifying it as a common disease. Bush and Rove just unfortunately were in position to make that quisling attitude the official Republican Conservative POV for 8 solid years. You cannot understand what I'm saying if you are so obsessed with personal blame.
Yes, I agree. He has embraced God and is a good Christian...but his “turning the other cheek” rather than “Smite them” did not help. I sooooo wished he would have fought back on those personal attacks. Every single time.
I’m not obessed with anything...I’m just sick of the blame Bush Mantra. If I understand your theory correctly (now), you are painting them all with a big RINO brush. I couldn’t agree more.
Well, yes the RINO brush is part of it - and there’s more to it than that, but on that track. And ironically, the “blame Bush” mantra of the left only works as well as it does because of how Bush and Rove handled the bully pulpit - or mishandled it - for their 8 years. So yes, I’m blaming Bush, for allowing the opposite side of the blaming Bush phenomenon to happen in the first place.
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