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To: Hardraade

I like the thought that there’s concrete factual analysis rather than simply a subjective impression of this person looking like that person. The two faces didn’t look alike to me, so it seemed strange for somebody to suggest in that article that they did. And it seems far-fetched that law enforcement/FBI would jump to test this guy’s DNA just based on his appearance. There must have been something in that apartment.

I read an article that said they appeared at his apartment about 5:30pm the day of the bombing and were there until about midnight. Even before that, though, at the hospital they had taken his clothes to examine for evidence that he had been involved in the bombing. If they found something at his apartment that led them to believe he was a Bin Laden they would probably have been able to do a DNA test.

That article said they were looking for explosives at his apartment, and the roommate said they didn’t take anything - but yet there were those bags of stuff they were loading into the car as they left. The article said they were eliminating him as a person of interest, and yet the official record had him classified as a “known terrorist”, presumably based on what they found there.

I caught snippets from Beck’s radio show today, and what is scary is the number of Congress members who responded to constituents by saying that they refuse to pay attention to “crazy conspiracy theories”. Beck reiterated that he had about 10 different people from WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT who confirmed the information for him, saying they have a smoking gun. But the soundness of the evidence means nothing - only the seeming sensationalism of the claim. It’s an epistemology I can’t understand. When an issue really matters, you do the due diligence of looking at facts. And you go wherever those facts take you, because truth is truth.

If truth doesn’t matter to us as a society, there is no hope for us. We’re a boiled frog. It’s scary to me to hear Congress members openly telling us that they are a boiled frog and can never be revived.

If the media and Congress are willing and able to sweep this under the rug, there is NOTHING that they can’t and/or won’t do the same thing to. If so, we are totally boiled. We’re incapable of feeling the pain that is supposed to accompany lies and corruption. There’s nothing SOLID left on us; it’s all just illusions and perceptions with nothing concrete to hang our hats on.

Sorry for the mixed metaphors. It’s late and my mind is mush. I fear this will all be washed away by the tides of the political-media charade playing around us. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound? I fear that will be the epitaph on this country’s gravestone.


231 posted on 04/23/2013 8:43:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

It was 4pm on Tuesday that they created the file with the designation as “known terrorist”. If Beck’s got it right, that label had to be cleared with multiple people/departments before it could be applied. That means there was something MIGHTY CONCLUSIVE that left no doubts in anybody’s mind. The actions of TEN people going to Beck (and to members of Congress) to show the original record (which they had the foresight to print out before it was altered) also says to me that there was something very, very solid on which they based their firm, death-defying belief.

At http://robertleather.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-so-just-how-long-does-dna-testing-take/ it says a RUSH job on DNA testing takes 8 hours. If they found something in the apartment that aroused suspicion and submitted DNA for a rush analysis by 8am on Tuesday morning they could have had a result by 4pm, at which time they could have called everybody together and come up with the classification for the file. Wouldn’t have taken much debate.

And that was the afternoon that the FBI was trying to schedule a press conference to make a big announcement - only to have it interrupted by a bomb threat and eventually Obama’s big temper tantrum on TV. Lots of people saying, “What the heck is going on here?!” Almost like the FBI had something big they wanted to say, and somebody “higher up” wanted to cover it up...


232 posted on 04/23/2013 9:08:01 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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