TIME 100: Rand Paul (By Sarah Palin)

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[JohnPDuncan]

Rand Paul U.S. Senator, 50 By Sarah Palin

When the Tea Party movement wanted to send a message to the Senate in 2010, it elected a clear-sighted eye doctor from the Bluegrass State. In a D.C. too often defined by the venal equivocations of a permanent political class more interested in consolidating its own power than in upholding the Constitution or defending the common good, Senator Rand Paul is a voice of reason awakening the public to what must be done to restore our prosperity and preserve the blessings of liberty for future generations. His brand of libertarian-leaning conservatism attracts young voters, and recently he inspired the nation with his Capraesque filibuster demanding basic answers about our use of drones. I sent him some caribou jerky from Alaska to help keep up his strength on the Senate floor. There’s more where that came from for this bold Senator with 20/20 vision willing to take a stand for liberty.

Palin is a former governor of Alaska

[Cen-Tejas]

..........well, unless I mis-interpreted what he said a little while ago, even Jim Robinson held his nose and voted for Romney.

Since we had no other choice but Romney, and since I agree with your last paragraph in your post, I think we can kick it back to the primaries as to when we conservatives LOST then can’t we! Meaning, US Conservatives lost the General Election in the primaries! I haven’t researched/analyzed the math but at first glance it looks like a Palin/Anybody ticket would have beat Obama.

[CatherineofAragon]

"They're here because they do the hard work that democrats are too lazy and stupid to do.

I don't see democrats lining up at the corner at dawn looking for work. See a lot of mexicans doing that tho'. I'd prefer that they were here legally, since someone's got to to the work, but there you are. It's not an important issue. When the government gets in the way, via over regulation, the free market will find a way around - usually via the black market in labor."

Do you believe the myth that we need illegals because Americans won't do the work? I say "Americans"---I'm not sure why you're using the term Democrat. It doesn't make much sense.

Don't deceive yourself. There would be more jobs for unemployed folks if we didn't have countless alien criminals snatching the work.

[CatherineofAragon]

"I see more clearly than ever that our conservative principles are in dire straights. If FReepers can’t see what amnesty will do this time around, and who is pushing it, what chance have we got?"

Not much, IMO.

And it isn't just one or two people....the trend of excusing amnesty seems to be getting stronger.

[SarahPalinForPresident2012]

Disappointing that Gov Palin lends her voice to amnesty...

[jpsb]

I like Rand Paul on immigration and here is one of the reasons why.

“I don’t want a new pathway,” Paul said, noting that the “same pathway” would give a “better chance of passing immigration reform.” He added, "It’s important for conservatives that it’s no new pathway to citizenship,” Paul said, proposing that workers get a work visa and go to the back of the line like someone in Mexico City. “Get in the same line."

[SoConPubbie]

We better find out FAST who is willing to oppose this amnesty, because this is the LAST time conservatives will have any voice.

When I see Palin, or Paul or ANY of them expose the muslim loving corruption that is amnesty in the GOP (Rubio, McCain, Norquist, Conda, et al), I might support one of them, until then I’ll stick with Jeff Sessions, who Norquist insists he has ‘marginalized’.

I agree.

Waiting to see where Palin drops on Rand's Amnesty plan.

[SoConPubbie]

I don’t want a new pathway,” Paul said, noting that the “same pathway” would give a “better chance of passing immigration reform.” He added, "It’s important for conservatives that it’s no new pathway to citizenship,” Paul said, proposing that workers get a work visa and go to the back of the line like someone in Mexico City. “Get in the same line."

All of that is empty rhetoric until Rand Paul drops the Amnesty("Normalization") part of his Immigration Reform.

Conservatives do not invalidate the rule of law.

Conservatives do not reward law-breakers, including the millions of Undocumented Democrats who have committed ID Fraud (Felonies) with Amnesty.

Conservatives do not put their own political career before the health and welfare of this country, this Democratic Republican system.

Conservatives do not put their short-term political ambitions (Desire to be President) before the long-term survival of their party and their country and mark my words, granting Amnesty, even if it is legalizing the illegals and removing all obstacles to them becoming citizens, 30 million+ undocumented Democrats is the path to suicide for the GOP and this country.

And with respect to your constant harping on how he wants to secure the border, this is just more smoke and mirrors and term re-definition on the part of Rand Paul.

Granting Amnesty to 2 million Undocumented Democrats based on a "Certification" of a Congress comprised of roughly 50% Democrats who already feel the border is secure and another 25% RINOS who would do or say anything to grant Amnesty IS NOT SECURING THE BORDER!

Immigrants More Likely to Identify as Liberal, Put International Law Over Constitution

Here is the reason that Amnesty, whether it be called Immigration Reform, Normalization, or any other weasel word or phrase must not be allowed to win!

This is the reason that any politician who is supporting this concept at any level MUST BE CONSIDERED A TRAITOR TO OUR CAUSE!

[SoConPubbie]

don't see democrats lining up at the corner at dawn looking for work. See a lot of mexicans doing that tho'. I'd prefer that they were here legally, since someone's got to to the work, but there you are. It's not an important issue. When the government gets in the way, via over regulation, the free market will find a way around - usually via the black market in labor.

The only reason they are doing those jobs is because their lives are being subsidized by the American Taxpayers. If they could not get the freebies that they get by abusing the system, they wouldn't be able to live here.

We are in effect subsidizing businesses so they can make a profit, have a stable workforce while our taxes, our money, the money I use to support my family is stolen from me.

In effect, I have to give money to some other guy's family to help some businessman get rich before I can use my hard-earned money to support my family.

[jpsb]

"Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common."

Rand Paul

[SoConPubbie]

"Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common."

And yet he wants to make them legal (AMNESTY) so they will still have access to the same social benefits, the same freebies, the SAME TAXPAYER PROVIDED benefits.

30 million+ of them.

So what the hell is your point again?

[jpsb]

I am just telling you what his position is, I understand you do not like his position, but I see it as vastly better then the gang of 8. The key is enforcement, Paul puts enforcement on the front end, not the back end like the gang of 8. No enforcement no “normalization”. And thank Bush, Clinton, Bush + Obama for the problem we now face. At least Paul is serious about fixing the problem. Unlike W who everyone here thinks was so great.

[jpsb]

I do not think people here on a work visa get federal social benefits.

[SoConPubbie]

I am just telling you what his position is, I understand you do not like his position, but I see it as vastly better then the gang of 8. The key is enforcement, Paul puts enforcement on the front end, not the back end like the gang of 8. No enforcement no “normalization”. And thank Bush, Clinton, Bush + Obama for the problem we now face. At least Paul is serious about fixing the problem. Unlike W who everyone here thinks was so great.

His plan leads to exactly the same thing, Amnesty and citizenship for 30 million+ undocumented Democrats, just at different speeds.

His plan is just more PR Packaging of Amnesty, the same use of deceitful rhetoric to convince conservatives that it is a good thing.

Just like the lie that he is for enforcement.

There is no enforcement in his plan, simply smoke and mirrors and lies.

His so-called enforcement is comprised of gaining a "Certification" from Congress that the border is secure. The same congress comprised of 50% Democrats who have always thought the border was secure enough and 25% RINOS who always put their own political aspirations above protecting the country and the citizens whom they represent.

Quit lying about this being enforcement. Rand Paul is lying, and he knows it. There is no enforcement in his plan.

[SoConPubbie]

I do not think people here on a work visa get federal social benefits.

It's called ID Fraud, and when you can buy an ID for $500, you get federal, state, county, and city social benefits.

Furthermore, it is well-known, that the illegals use the Emergency room for everything from minor cuts and bruises, colds, and sometimes for serious matters.

When they cannot invariably pay the bill, it is passed on by the bureaucracy to the state of feds to pay. That means you and I.

Rand Paul's plan forgives the ID Fraud, by implication, because he makes them legal.

Rand Paul isn't for enforcement, that's the BIG LIE!

Rand Paul is for Amnesty.

[SoConPubbie]

Let me make it easy for you.

When Rand Paul, like Sarah has stated, makes it clear that he wants the Border fence completed BEFORE he is willing to propose a plan then you will know he is serious about border security.

Everything or anything less is simply prevarication, or lying, on his part.

[jpsb]

I believe he wants Congress to vote so that those in Congress can be held accountable for their vote. Seems reasonable to me. First ICE or border patrol or who ever would have to present an annul report to Congress that the border is secure and then Congress would have to vote on the report. Once Congress is on record for the vote, voters can decide what action, if any, should be taken to reward/punish their Congressman. Right now we have EXACTLY what the Rats want, open borders no enforcement and illegals gaming the system. Personally I am NOT happy with the current situation and neither is Paul.

[jpsb]

I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

[jpsb]

Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation's security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.

I voted for Romney for only one reason, he was strong on illegal immigration. I am a hawk one this issue. I am almost with Ann Coulter (single issue voter) on this. I would like the border secured, fenced where necessary, and the laws enforced. So far Paul is the only one of note that is close to my position. You seem to think he is lying, I don't.

[SoConPubbie]

I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

And yet he has not suggested that be a part of his plan, has he?

Like I said, when he states unequivocally, that before we can talk about what to do about the 30 million+ (not the lie that there is only 10 million) the border fence must be completed, then you will know he is serious about enforcement and border security.

You'll notice he has been real specific about his plans to grant Amnesty ("Normalization").

Get back to me when he gets as specific about the border fence and he drops his opposition to e-Verify.

[SoConPubbie]

First of all, you aren't as strong as you think you are.

The fence needs to be along the complete border, not just portions, but the complete border.

Secondly, since there are no real specifics on border security, just comments supporting the idea of a border fence or strengthening security, you have no real idea about how strong Rand Paul really is.

Lastly, I know Rand Paul is lying. He is granting an Amnesty by legalizing millions of Illegals who have practiced ID Fraud with no penalties, no jail time, which is required for Felonies like ID Fraud. Rand Paul is still stating that Normalization is not Amnesty, and yet anyone being honest about this knows that it is.

You're not being honest with yourself.