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Bomb fragment pictured in FBI report
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Posted on 04/16/2013 7:00:23 PM PDT by Java4Jay

An intelligence bulletin issued to law enforcement includes a picture of a mangled pressure cooker and a torn black bag that the FBI says were part of a bomb that exploded during the Boston Marathon.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: boston; bostonmarathon; fbi; ied; marathon; pressurecookerbomb
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To: caww

Too bad. The old ones are capable of fracturing the skull of an intruder and never being any worse for the wear. Guess they don’t make anything like they used to.


21 posted on 04/16/2013 7:48:59 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: madison10

Google Presto 6 qt pressure cooker. Used in cooking beans, etc.

I use an “All American” due to the lack of needed O Ring and additional safety bolts.


22 posted on 04/16/2013 7:49:23 PM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: Java4Jay

Too mangled to make a guess at make, could be a Presto or any other pressure cooker. It’s definitely a pressure cooker lid though. Wouldn’t take much to block the pressure relief stem on top (cheap brass fitting would do it easily)


23 posted on 04/16/2013 7:52:41 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Sylvester McMonkey McBean
I hadn't seen Arcom's id of it as a Fagor. If that is so, the bomber made, in at least one way, a lib approved choice. Searching Fagor's pressure cookers on Amazon I found this blurb from Fagor:

Fagor is Green:

Fagor's mission is to use resources efficiently to preserve the environment and save energy, developing highly efficient products that consume less and save money; contributing to a healthy planet for us and our future generations. From a social perspective, Fagor's environmental policy strategy offers advantages to both workers and consumers. It provides workers with environmentally-appropriate working conditions, which, among other benefits, minimizes and eliminates the handling of hazardous materials, while for consumers, the end-users of Fagor's products and services, it allows for efficient use of the appliances, which reduces energy and water consumption.

Fagor has manufacturing systems established to minimize environmental impact on soil, water, energy, and air during the production process. There is also proper waste management and recycling procedures in place after the manufacturing process is completed.

In addition to numerous European product certifications and environmental stewardship awards, Fagor is also notably a participant in the Energy Star program in the USA, a joint program of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department Of Energy. Products that bear the energy star label allow consumers to recognize such products that have been manufactured to save money and protect the environment through energy efficient products and practices.


24 posted on 04/16/2013 7:56:53 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Figment

http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Fagor-Splendid-Pressure-Cooker-Review/Fagor-Splendid-Pressure-Cooker-Review-009.JPG

Bottom of a Fagor pressure cooker. Looks pretty much like the pics of the cookers used as bombs.


25 posted on 04/16/2013 8:00:04 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Grams A
No they don't make things like they use to...not even close.

On another note...these pressure cookers I've seen at rummage sales....many are afraid to use them...so there's no telling where tethese creeps picked them up...for that matter they could have mailed them to the person from overseas.

26 posted on 04/16/2013 8:00:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: Java4Jay

“It was not known what was used to set off the two explosives that killed three people Monday and injured more than 170 others.”

BS That is what would give us a clue as to the terrorist’s origin so naturally that info is classified.


27 posted on 04/16/2013 8:41:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: ltc8k6

Still from Fox bomb photo with Gas Electric Inox clearly visible.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-broadcasts-crime-scene-photos-of-exploded-pressure-cooker-bomb-from-boston-marathon/


28 posted on 04/16/2013 9:07:53 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Java4Jay

Wait a second whilst I untwist my tin foil hat!

Now, I think that a pressure vessel - like a pressure cooker pot - could be the “modern equivalent of the Roman cannonade”. -—Put a bunch of nails, etc. into a directed pot, and BOOM all the deadly junk inside, is directed toward its target.

So, in my weird world, I see an open pressure cooker, vertical, within a nylon backpack, all the lethal junk inside, placed on the ground directly in front of a stable backdrop structure, detonated, to direct the force within a spray pattern toward the street!

Hit the normal runners, less hit to rear standing bystanders!


29 posted on 04/16/2013 10:12:00 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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30 posted on 04/16/2013 10:19:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: null and void; Java4Jay

The pressure cooker is a Fagor Elite, 6 liter. I own the 9.5 liter (10 quart) model. Identical bottom markings and the lid is the same.

The 6 liter Elite is marketed in the US as a “6 quart” whose capacity is actually 6.3 quarts = 6 liters.

They removed the pressure indicator valve and replaced it with a bolt to seal the cooker up tighter.


31 posted on 04/16/2013 10:29:39 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: smokingfrog

There is a picture of a piece of the pressure cooker.

Picture 3/6
The words “GAS ELECTRIC” on the outside circle
The words “NOX” on the inside circle

Picture 4/6
We can see the UL Listed mark.
We can see the pressure rating in part
“0.55/1.05 bar”
“?S 1.6 bar”

Picture 1/6
Being held by a hand.
The piece is approximately 4-5 hand widths (side facing about 3”) in diameter. So that makes it say 12-15” diameter pressure cooker.

With the actual parts in hand, they should have placed the specific make and model of the pressure cooker by now.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/21996004/exclusive-photos-boston-marathon-bomb


32 posted on 04/16/2013 10:30:19 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: gandalftb

Looks close. I don’t have an actual model to compare.

In picture 1.
by hand: We can see where the side handle tore off. There appear to be two screw mounts. Definitely one on the lower side, cause the screw is still there. The top side has a strip of metal on the inside, but perhaps not screw.

Going down left in from that, we see a manufactured indent that matches the shape in the Elite Pressure Cooker Manual. There are two penetrations. One is just a hole, it is new the center of the oval indent. The other hole contains a screw and nut. This actually appears backwards from the elite picture.

A bit further down, there is a circular deep indent with large center hole. This feature does not sow on the Elite Pressure Cooker manual. What is this one for?


33 posted on 04/16/2013 10:44:57 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Sorry, second dimple is just an impact dimple.


34 posted on 04/16/2013 10:49:11 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“0.55/1.05 bar”
“?S 1.6 bar”

Converting 8.0/15.22 psig
23.2 psig.

Fagor lists the pressure ratings as 8 psi for low pressure and 15 psig for high pressure. So the pressure ratings appear to match.


35 posted on 04/16/2013 10:53:22 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: gandalftb

Manual: http://www.fagoramerica.com/content/download/9881/65850/file/Elite%20Pressure%20Cooker%20Manual.pdf


36 posted on 04/16/2013 10:53:53 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Bronzy
Sure they can track by tracing the numbers to the supplier and where is was distributed. Then they will find who bought from distributed stores. Who buys two PC’s on the same day, perhaps? Did they use a debit/credit card? CCTV in store of purchaser.

That might work if the store only sold one cooker. Otherwise, they'd have to record the serial number of each cooker sold and link it back to sale date/time. And the video would need not be not yet erased.

37 posted on 04/16/2013 10:57:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Pikachu_Dad

On another web site, they switched to this one.
Compare the two pictures.

Edit: It was likely the Fogor Splindid 6 qt. model. This picture of the bottom has all the same markings and are in the same position relative to each other as they are in the news photos.
http://l3.zassets.com/images/z/1/7/8/5/5/3/1785530-2-4x.jpg

Matching that picture to Picture 4/6
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/21996004/exclusive-photos-boston-marathon-bomb

We can see the 6L CE
(So it is a 6 Liter pot)
The UL Listed is correctly placed under the 6L
The words Pressure cooker may be under the UL Listing.

However, the pressure rating is 0.55/1.05 bar versus 1.05 bar.
(So the new model only has one pressure rating versus the 2 for the bomb!)
The PS 1.6 bar underneath matches.

The quality of build looks a lot flimsier in the bomb than in the model. I can’t see the spiral grooves of the metal.

Going to 3/6
The circle text.
GAS ELECTRIC is in the right spot, but it does not have the hyphen of this Fagor model.
The INOX is on the inside line starting between the EC, which is the correct spot.
Below that, there is the manufacturer name on the Model. It is difficult to read on the bomb. It appears to be FAG...
Below that on the outer cricle, we can see the stamp for FIRE; and the backside of the stamp for ELECTRIC, just like on the Fagor.

But I have to stay with your model. This is a two pressure model and the one he is picking has only one pressure.


38 posted on 04/16/2013 11:15:17 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Looking at picture 1/6, it is not the FUGOR model. The order of the Nut hole vent hole are backwards.

The NUT is closer to the handle in the bomb. The vent hole is near the center.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/4324376728_83caae823b.jpg
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/21996004/exclusive-photos-boston-marathon-bomb

Further, the bottom of the FUGOR model does not match. The INOX is in the wrong spot.

Not a FUGOR.

http://l3.zassets.com/images/z/1/4/0/9/3/4/1409348-2-4x.jpg


39 posted on 04/16/2013 11:18:18 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Oh dang Google. Every bleeding search now comes up with a frigging Fagor pressure cooker add ! Talk about messing up the search !


40 posted on 04/16/2013 11:25:28 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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