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Person Briefed on Probe: Bombs in Pressure Cookers (Boston)
AP via ABC News ^ | Tuesday, April 16, 2013 | Eileen Sullivan

Posted on 04/16/2013 9:33:09 AM PDT by kristinn

A person briefed on the Boston Marathon investigation says the explosives were in 6-liter pressure cookers and placed in black duffel bags.

The person says the explosives were placed on the ground and contained shards of metal, nails and ball bearings.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bostonmarathon; patriotsdaybombing
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

When I was a kid, we shook the gunpowder out of about 100 dud firecrackers and packed them into a cardboard box about the size of a cigarette package and lite it on fire. Quite a fizzle and short burst of fire and smoke. Thank God we didn’t have access to a pressure cooker.


61 posted on 04/16/2013 11:30:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: kristinn
OMG! Black duffle bags!

Did they have pistol grips and bayonet lugs!

How about 30-round carrying straps?

62 posted on 04/16/2013 11:38:31 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Noumenon

Yeah, I have a Crockpot but I don’t think I can kill anyone with it...well, wait a minute. My cooking has killed before...


63 posted on 04/16/2013 11:50:50 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: kitchen
I picked a 6L pressure cooker from the cooking school for a test & we were unable to get a ring from a disposable phone sealed inside. I suspect a clever person could design an alternative.

I think that the cell phone idea is "over thinking" it. They have created a bomb in a sealed vessel, they know the event timing fairly accurately, so they used a cheap wrist watch with an alarm function as a timer and some batteries for ignition, and put all the parts into the kettle to become part of the shrapnel.

That way the perp(s) could prepare the devices 24 hours in advance and deploy them in the dead of night (after garbage pick-up of course), then get out of town and watch TV.

Boston could learn from NYC cops and get rid of all receptacles (garbage cans, mailboxes, &c) along the potential target zones. Or they could do as the French do in Paris and convert their "garbage cans" into hardened bomb containment vessels which direct the blast upward and away from street traffic.

Regards,
GtG

64 posted on 04/16/2013 12:03:31 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Colorado Doug

I think we’re on to something here. I’m all for smaller capacity pressure cookers.


65 posted on 04/16/2013 12:38:26 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Billthedrill

Remind me not to eat your chili. LOL.

OTOH, I make mine with peanut butter, unsweetened chocolate, chipotle chili powder, a couple of fresh habaneros and several tablespoons of Montreal steak seasoning. Imparts nice glow...


66 posted on 04/16/2013 1:02:50 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Who among us haven’t done some sort of stupid crap when we were kids? Sometimes I wonder how any of us made it to adulthood!


67 posted on 04/16/2013 1:22:06 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: kitchen
Cell phone functionality is less than ideal here, with a typical low quality connection.

Cell signals are probably quite good in the area in question.

However, even if they used a cell phone, it might have simply been used as a timer, not as a means of remote control. In the 2004 Madrid train bombings, which killed 191 and injured a couple of thousand, that's what they did. There were several duds. In one case the cell phone alarm was 12 hours off. In another, the wires had come loose from the detonator. The police traced the SIM card from one of the phones to the perps.

68 posted on 04/16/2013 1:24:03 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: virgil
You're not supposed to share those fishing secrets.
70 posted on 04/16/2013 3:32:29 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: The Louiswu
Time to ban pressure cookers.

No, not outlaw them . . . merely make legal possession of them a government monopoly.

There's no need for anyone who isn't a policeman or member of the armed forces to own a pressure cooker!

71 posted on 04/16/2013 3:41:54 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: virgil

I’ve got a nephew who did that and it cost his parents several thousand dollars in legal fees to get the terrorism charges dropped.


72 posted on 04/16/2013 4:09:45 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kitchen

You’re absolutely right.


73 posted on 04/16/2013 4:28:28 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
See this?
74 posted on 04/17/2013 8:59:21 AM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: kitchen
See this?

No, I had not yet seen the crime scene photos. They are not surprising as the components of the timer and the shrapnel will not "vaporize" in the blast. It will be interesting to see what form of explosive was used. My first guess was a mix of smokeless powder and a sugar/potassium nitrate mix which is often used by the Palestinians to fuel their "junkyard" rockets. Both would be low explosives but the the materials are relatively easy to obtain. Another possibility would be acetone peroxide (TATP) also known as "mother of Satan" by Islamic terrorists. It is a primary (high) explosive which may be prepared from commonly available materials but requires great care in the manufacture as it is extremely sensitive and subject to premature detonation (hence the nickname).

TATP is almost certainly a positive link to Islamic terrorists as it has been used by the "underwear" bomber, the "shoe" bomber (both unsuccessfully) and the planned destruction of multiple commercial flights. The "airplane" plot was aborted when the TATP exploded during preparation and took out the apartment the terrorists were using as a home base. Their plot was documented from their abandoned computer's hard drive. The use of a pressure cooker as a bomb casing is also a link to Islamic terrorists. All though once information becomes available on the Internet, it becomes much harder to isolate the actual transgressors.

Regards,
GtG

75 posted on 04/17/2013 10:40:20 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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