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1 posted on 04/15/2013 8:28:25 AM PDT by neverdem
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"...many more—more than a quarter each year—will have some diagnosable mental disorder..."

This is an easy one. The people who are creating these standards have a vested interest in increasing the population of people who might require treatment.

Secondarily, this also opens up large swaths of the entitlement population to government largesse.

Basically, more people with disabling mental conditions who can get disability or other benefits.

Note that I am not saying there should not be people who are eligible for some kind of help if they have a mental condition that really needs it. I am saying this is an intentional broadening of the definition of who needs it.

34 posted on 04/15/2013 9:22:06 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Robert Duvall)
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almost half will have a diagnosable mental illness in their lifetimes

Maybe those of us with multiple diagnosable mental disorders are skewing the statistics. lol

35 posted on 04/15/2013 9:24:56 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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is is all about the record keeping and the taking of rights via “medical need”.

There is no “judicial determination” requirement.

Drs. already have a “god” complex.


38 posted on 04/15/2013 9:28:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Lower the bar for mental illness.
Raise the bar for owning a gun.
When they meet, nobody can own a gun. That's the plan.
Except of course members of the ruling elite and their hand picked minions.

40 posted on 04/15/2013 9:35:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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42 posted on 04/15/2013 9:37:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I heard that one of the “Mental Disorders” is if one grieves for a deceased loved one for more than a prescribed number of days.

After the deadline, you are no longer a bereaved widow, but a nutcase.

NICE, eh?

That would probably include all the pious Jews who light a candle on the the anniversary of the loved one’s death every year, and are reminded by mail to do so.

A convenient way of justifying “rounding them up.”


45 posted on 04/15/2013 9:46:15 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: neverdem; Revolting cat!

Half of all Americans are below average!


46 posted on 04/15/2013 9:46:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: neverdem; Revolting cat!

Homosexuality can be diagnosed but corrupt forces in the medical community deny now that it is an abnormality. So it must be OVER half then. Just over half because homosexualists’ numbers are over-estimated to begin with.


47 posted on 04/15/2013 9:47:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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This crazy talk is being used to tarnish political opponents and those who might seek firearms.

Yet my own position on the matter is that if you are crazy enough (because of criminal intent) to be denied a firearm, you also are crazy enough to be locked up. If you CANNOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS, then someone else must be your guardian. And crazy people can use knives, cars, planes, poison, and pillows to kill persons. Lock up the crazy people already and quit telling me how the drugs they are on can help them pass for “normal”. Passing for normal isn’t the same thing as BEING normal.


50 posted on 04/15/2013 9:50:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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The whole dx system is flawed. It isn’t a quick or completely underhanded trick. In one way, all people should be diagnosable.for instance, terrible things could happen to any one of us. All of your belongings destroyed in a fire; you lose a precious child to illness or murder; your job in the military or as a first responder has gotten to you; you’ve been raped, attacked; your spouse has cheated on you; you’ve been forced to move to a area you don’t like, etc. Therapy could help you, and maybe your insurance could cover it.

Therapy can help also when you deal with illness, yours or a family member. People do get helped by groups with the same situation. PTSD in soldiers, breast cancer, infertility.

Parents do have to deal with more mental and behavioral differences in their kids than ever before. Both the kids and the parents sometimes need psychological assistance for these issues. There are parenting techniques to help with autism, for example. There are ways to prevent attachment disorders when you adopt children. Etc.

Sometimes spouses are speaking a different language and their marriage is coming unraveled. It can take a third party in the room sometimes to facilitate communication and help save the marriage.

There are so many ways to need or be helped by mental health practitioners that are not liberal over diagnosing. And with insurance being involved, each of the instances above will carry a diagnostic code.

Is the APA a ridiculous, liberal, politically correct piece of Doo Doo? Yes. But the conditions listed above, and others, are real and when people get help, it means they are not alone, reinventing the wheel.

Helping a first responder with PTSD or alcoholism is good. It’s good to provide help to an elderly recent widow. It is important to help people with terminal diagnoses, or who’ve miscarried four babies in a row.

Please don’t forget the good that mental health can provide.


51 posted on 04/15/2013 9:51:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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“I see. So you believe in an invisible higher power? Hmmm. Clearly you have mental health issues. Any firearms in the house? Yes? Well, not for long. The Men with the helmets and bullet proof white coats will stop by your place between 3 and 4 am and collect those nasty guns for your own protection. Next!”


53 posted on 04/15/2013 9:58:09 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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Why will half of the U.S. population have a diagnosable mental disorder?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats nothing. 90% of all federal politicians and civil servants have a mental disorder, which is why 50% of the US population has it. The disorder is called “utopian liberal fascism.” May God have mercy on our nation.


57 posted on 04/15/2013 10:06:29 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Since Obamacare will put your diagnosis of “mental disorder” in a government database, it would be easy to cross reference this with government gun registration data. Soon government good squads will be knocking on your door to confiscate your guns because you have a “mental disorder”.


63 posted on 04/15/2013 10:32:09 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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And the new manual will likely make it even "easier" to get a diagnosis.

And harder to legally obtain firearms and ammo.

64 posted on 04/15/2013 10:39:11 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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” Americans scored higher on neuroticism in 1993 than they did in 1963, suggesting that as a population we are becoming more anxious. “

That seems to me to be a bad sign, could it possibly have to do with the growing prevalence in single parent house holds?

Wikipiedia defines neurotism as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroticism

” Individuals who score high on neuroticism are more likely than the average to experience such feelings as anxiety, anger, envy, guilt, and depressed mood.”

Looks to me like signs of an unstable family as well as predisposition toward the leftist message which exploits anger, envy, guilt and depression to help bring out the worse in people.


65 posted on 04/15/2013 10:39:19 AM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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..........”more than a quarter each year—will have some diagnosable mental disorder”.....

Of course with all the foreigners moving in here....heck the S.Koreans say 100% of the escapees into their country are clinically paranoid.

We,ve got all the Easterners coming in with backgrounds of abuse from childhood and throughout their life...coupled with the Koran they adhere to, is enough to cause all sorts of mental issues.


67 posted on 04/15/2013 10:42:44 AM PDT by caww
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Of course ou will have 50% of people diagnosed this way if depression for time is classified as "illness".

In reality, being depressed is part of the human condition. It is not a "disease". It is normal.

Couple that with a refusal to label sin because of liberalism (atheism) permeating our culture. Much of being depressed is due to sin nature. When people refuse to recognize sin, pills are recommended rather than the real medicine which is repentance.

69 posted on 04/15/2013 10:59:43 AM PDT by what's up
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Abnormal Is the New Normal: Why will half of the U.S. population have a diagnosable mental disorder?

Because the gooberment wants them to!?! It helps so much with control of the sheeple.

70 posted on 04/15/2013 11:05:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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Because liberalism is a mental disease?


74 posted on 04/15/2013 12:29:53 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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If it goes over 50%, then wouldn’t that mean mentally normal people are now the ones that are abnormal?


79 posted on 04/15/2013 2:55:21 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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