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These climate models couldn't tell you if it was raining out. Let alone what the temp will be in 10 years.

Climate prediction, at the present level of knowledge is the equivalent of doing brain surgery with salad tongs. You will never succeed.

1 posted on 04/12/2013 3:00:31 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus
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To: Titus-Maximus

Duh. As if any rational person couldn’t see it.


2 posted on 04/12/2013 3:07:42 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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you know how it is with computer models - garbage in garbage out


3 posted on 04/12/2013 3:11:39 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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The Left has already accepted man-made climate change as Gospel, despite the lack of evidence. Their agenda precedes them in this case. It allows them to attack industry, capitalism, the very heart of American competitiveness. For myself, I want to see some actual evidence if that’s not too heretical, and then if necessary find a measured, reasonable solution, not a mad panicky rush into the dark ages.


4 posted on 04/12/2013 3:15:41 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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IMHO....The Sun God and the Volcano Gods have complete control over the little Blue Marble’s temperature.....and the real God runs that control panel


5 posted on 04/12/2013 3:17:06 PM PDT by M-cubed
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Freeman Dyson points out that the models in use cannot hind cast. By that he means the models, if loaded with known variables from 1998 and forward cannot predict the current conditions. Since both ends the tested period are known absolutely, this is a fatal critique of the models. They don’t even come close.


6 posted on 04/12/2013 3:19:17 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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It does not mean global warming is a delusion.

Of course not. Why, one of the best indicators of global warming is that the temperature doesn't go up.

7 posted on 04/12/2013 3:24:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Interglacial Period

Maunder Minimum

Little Ice Age

Medieval Warm Period


8 posted on 04/12/2013 3:58:44 PM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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The whole premise that molecular level increases of CO2 in the atmosphere drive global temperature increases is not supported by actual observations and thus is faulty. Scientific method would say that the theory of CO2 driven temperature increases is not supported by the data and thus should be drastically revised or abandoned. To stubbornly cling to this theory is dogmatic not scientific.


9 posted on 04/12/2013 7:38:38 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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Climate prediction, at the present level of knowledge is the equivalent of doing brain surgery with salad tongs. You will never succeed.

As is evidenced by the fact that weathermen can get it so wrong so often and remain in work. It's not odd for a two-day forecast to be "updated" a few times a day and still be wrong; and that's with all the pertinent information readily available and observable on a real-time basis..

10 posted on 04/13/2013 2:54:54 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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