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Women’s expectations of the opposite sex are at least as unrealistic as men’s
The Economist ^ | April 13, 2013 (Back to the future!) | The Economist

Posted on 04/12/2013 3:42:47 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

MEN have long wondered what exactly it is that women want. Some pore over men’s magazines, with their promises of “washboard abs”, for guidance. The more scientifically minded look for experimental data. The latest evidence comes from a group of researchers led by Brian Mautz, then of Australian National University. They gathered 105 heterosexual Australian women and showed them a series of digitally generated pictures of men in which three bodily characteristics were varied—height, shoulder-to-waist ratio and flaccid penis size. The women were asked to rate the men as sexual partners.

In an article just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Dr Mautz and his team describe their results. Happily for the insecure, although the women did indeed find a larger penis alluring, it was not the most important factor. That honour went to the combination of broad shoulders and a narrow waist, which accounted for around three-quarters of the variation in attractiveness all by itself. Height was also only a weak predictor of appeal. That is odd, says Dr Mautz, because other studies have linked height with all sorts of benefits, from higher salaries to longer lives. The bigger-is-better effect was also subject to diminishing returns: each extra centimetre, whether of height, shoulder width or penis size, was less significant than the previous one.

Nonetheless, even the tallest, broadest-shouldered and best-endowed digital hunks that the researchers generated fell short of perfection. “The optimum values appear to lie outside the tested range,” they note, adding that the “maxima are more than two standard deviations from the population mean for each trait.” That means that, for each trait, fewer than 2.5% of the men whom women encounter in the real world will be as generously proportioned as they might hope. Men with perfect scores in all three traits will be rarer than hen’s teeth.

The study is not perfect. There was no danger of the women mistaking the digital men for the real thing. Other factors—such as social status, for instance—may, in the real world, override the physical preferences that the researchers were measuring. And it is hard, when all the subjects come from a single country, to disentangle the effects of nurture from those of nature. It is commonly pointed out, for instance, that men’s apparent preference for slim women seems to be a relatively modern (and Western) construction. Erotica from the turn of the 19th century tend to feature much curvier women than their modern equivalent. Women’s preferences may be just as influenced by the culture in which they grow up.

On the other hand, it is a rule of thumb in biology that females (of any species) are much pickier than males. There are good evolutionary reasons why that is so. Even in humans, who share the burden of child-rearing more equally than many animals, having children requires far more of an investment of resources from a female than it does from a male—after all, it is the woman who must endure nine months of pregnancy and then breast-feed the baby. Women therefore face stronger incentives to spend their relatively limited reproductive resources on only the most attractive men, whose children will be most likely to breed in turn. Back to the sit-ups, boys.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: attraction; men; reproduction; women
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To: maddog55
Flavio!

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41 posted on 04/12/2013 6:34:41 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: freeangel; Mamzelle

You just hit the 10 on a scale of 10 in diagnosing the male self inflated picture of themselves.

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I wonder if your high level awareness about our (men’s) flaws is matched with that same degree of self awareness.


42 posted on 04/12/2013 6:41:07 AM PDT by dmz
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To: momtothree

“....one of the purchased Russian brides wouldn’t go on camping trips with her husband.”

On that thread somebody pointed out that to these Russian babes, living in Russia IS like camping, so once they get their green card, it’s time to enjoy all those capitalist amenities (indoor plumbing, hot showers, A/C, etc.)


43 posted on 04/12/2013 7:25:46 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Islander7

Yes, we do, and but this test will never find it, because looks are secondary, possibly even tertiary, in what factors into women’s preferences. Vitality, humor, intelligence...it starts there.


44 posted on 04/12/2013 7:49:58 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Tax-chick
To be blunt the analysis sucks. Men are visual because, unlike women who can fake it, we require something to get the thing going. A sack of flower is not sexy. Unlike women, who for the most part seem to gradually lose their sexual interest after the initial slutty period, age15-25, men want sex until the day they die, hell some think about it on their death bed.
45 posted on 04/12/2013 8:31:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: elcid1970

I personally know a woman from Moldova. She told me that many Americans assume all Eastern Europeans wear rags and don’t want to acquire wealth. That is the farthest from the truth. They all know about luxury cars, Prada, Gucci, etc... and want it for their very own. They acquire it more by marrying into it vs. what we may say (that is, get a really good job and acquire it yourself or with the help of a husband).


46 posted on 04/12/2013 8:50:26 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: dmz

I dunno. What do you think of the naked rear-end thong picture in the post a few posts back? Think that really belongs on FR? I think it rather proves my point.


47 posted on 04/12/2013 8:52:24 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: central_va; Tax-chick

In your post... that is the difference between men and women. “...we require something to get the thing going.... men want sex until the day they die”. You see, the woman does age but so does the man. Do they think they still have the flat stomach, biceps, full head of hair etc.. in their 50’s and 60’s? I think that women may realize the aging process a bit more than men and this is why the purple pill was invented. They may still want to be young and virile.. however, they need medication to be so.


48 posted on 04/12/2013 9:03:41 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Mamzelle

Is “chippie” another name for “mistress?”


49 posted on 04/12/2013 2:49:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: momtothree

If you have no sex life then you have no life. Blue pill or no blue pill. Me? I need the opposite of Viagra™. Something to take it down a notch when finished.


50 posted on 04/12/2013 4:50:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Also in Argentinian—”fiancee”


51 posted on 04/12/2013 6:57:38 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: outofsalt

Definitely...


52 posted on 04/14/2013 8:07:16 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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