RNC official compares homosexuality to alcoholism, says it leads to drugs

The Washington Post ^ | April 11, 2013 | Aaron Blake

[EveningStar]

Michigan Republican National Committeeman Dave Agema, who caused a stir last month when he posted an article to his Facebook page that labeled the homosexual lifestyle as “filthy,” is now comparing homosexuality to alcoholism and says it leads to drug abuse.

[Trailerpark Badass]

I said as much in my post. However, I attributed it to the fact that (most, not all) heterosexual women aren't as willing to engage in anonymous sexual trysts with men as homosexual men are with one another. If heterosexual women were by nature as open to anonymous sex as men, quite a few heterosexual males would also have dozens or hundreds of sexual partners.

So you're saying if you could erase at least 5000 years of cultural development, reduce man to a lower-order primate with no transcendental consciousness, and THEN monkey with instinctive mammalian reproductive strategies, your disordered view of reality would be relevant?

[ek_hornbeck]

Actually, I don’t know all that many heterosexual males who are interested in anonymous sex. I don’t believe for a moment that most hetero men really WANT to have sex with a thousand anonymous girls.

Most high schools and college age guys that I've known thought about little besides that. If (straight) males were as faithful and monogamous as you claim, why haven't all porn magazines/sites and strip clubs gone out of business? Why is a casual "hook up" culture the norm among youth? Are they just pretending to be homosexuals?

[Mr Rogers]

Do you know a significant percentage of heterosexual men who WANT anonymous sex?

I do not. They may want sex, but the vast majority want it with someone they know. I’ve never heard of heterosexual men having sex thru a hole in the wall - unlike homosexual men.

There is a reason why most men have not had 500-1000 sex partners, and it isn’t because women are too picky.

[LadyDoc]

five percent of non gay boys had "sexual intercourse" below age 13. 20 percent of gay boys did. In other surveys (for example inner city youths) similar statistics are found. link

The survey is very damaging to the gay activists who want to blame Christians for these children's depression etc. when a lot of them are probably depressed because of abuse (and if you read the whole article, abuse includes forced intercourse) which is why I have yet to see it reported in the MSM...

[justiceseeker93]

"The principal behind this advice is simple: almost all behavior begins to look normal if you are exposed to enough of it at close quarters.."

Yes, that's the crux of the gay activist strategy and, judging from what you see and hear in the MSM, they seem to have been successful (from their point of view) in propagandizing to younger generations in the US.

(BTW, these gay "intellectuals" to whom you refer apparently can't spell very well: should be "principle", not "principal.")

[justiceseeker93]

[F]ive percent of non gay boys had "sexual intercourse" below age 13. 20 percent of gay boys did. In other surveys (for example inner city youths) similar statistics are found.

Seems that these studies also tend to undermine the gay activist meme that homosexuals are born as such, i.e., that homosexuality is determined by genetics rather than environmental factors.

My gut feeling is that the etiology of male homosexuality is a combination of both heredity and environment, and the etiology of female homosexuality is overwhelmingly environmental.

Lesbian activists have piggy-backed their political agenda onto that of male homosexuals, even though the two disorders (yes, I know I'm being politically incorrect) are vastly different in terms of etiology, health risks, and life style. Most lesbians have had some deep-seated problem with an important male figure in their lives and are hostile to the male gender as a whole.

[ek_hornbeck]

I do not. They may want sex, but the vast majority want it with someone they know

If this were true, there would be no female prostitutes.

[ek_hornbeck]

Seems that these studies also tend to undermine the gay activist meme that homosexuals are born as such, i.e., that homosexuality is determined by genetics rather than environmental factors.

My gut feeling is that the etiology of male homosexuality is a combination of both heredity and environment, and the etiology of female homosexuality is overwhelmingly environmental.

Lesbian activists have piggy-backed their political agenda onto that of male homosexuals, even though the two disorders (yes, I know I'm being politically incorrect) are vastly different in terms of etiology, health risks, and life style. Most lesbians have had some deep-seated problem with an important male figure in their lives and are hostile to the male gender as a whole.

Most homosexual couples (male and female) live up to the stereotype where one is masculine and the other feminine. This is especially true with lesbians - almost every couple consists of a manly, muscle-bound, vest-wearing butch with a crew cut plus a relatively normal-looking girlfriend. I think you can make a case for the more feminine of the pair being what she is because of fear/hatred of men, but I'm utterly convinced that hormones and genetics explain the "butch" of the pair (social environment doesn't explain large hands, thick bones, and deep voices).

I'd guess the same is true for homosexual males, where at least the more effeminate ones are more a product of nature than nurture. Where environment and culture enters the picture is in the more "gender normal" acting ones, who probably could have been functioning heterosexuals under different circumstances.

[Mr Rogers]

There aren’t many female prostitutes, compared to the number of men in the USA. There aren’t hetero bath houses, where guys stick their cocks thru holes in the wall...

[Yaelle]

I don’t know WH you pinged me to this. I get into trouble on homosexuality threads because I believe homosexuality is environmental — from before birth. There is evidence that there is some epigenetic effect on the developing baby, possibly due to all the plastics and other chemical changes in women’s uteri these days.

Anyone is free to disagree with me but watching little children, toddlers, preschoolers play, there is much evidence that some children are born with gender differences. I do not know if masculine girls or effeminate boys all become homosexual at sexual maturity, but many do.

[ek_hornbeck]

There aren’t many female prostitutes, compared to the number of men in the USA

That's because prostitution is illegal in the US. In countries where prostitution is legal (or where the law looks the other way), it can be tough to walk down the street without being solicited by one.

[Mr Rogers]

I’ve traveled over much of the world, including places where prostitution is accepted. It did NOT result in men having hundreds of sex partners - in the hetero world.

Sorry, but queers have a queer idea of sex, love and commitment.

[LadyDoc]

yes, heredity and environment seem to contribute to homosexuality. But in all cultures there are about one percent Homosexuals, so there is a genetic part. And although it is now taboo to mention it, many gay men had a distant relationship with their father (which is why they are vulnerable to being abused since they want a male parent to love them).

[jsanders2001]

> You might find this file useful-

Is Obama Gay?

http://www.nachumlist.com/gay.htm

People have been convicted of murder with less evidence. I’d say he’s probably limped a time or two after a few one night stands or Reggie Love sessions...