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Social conservatives warn Priebus they could abandon GOP
First Read NBC News ^ | April 9, 2013 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 04/10/2013 4:58:07 PM PDT by yongin

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To: EternalVigilance

Priebus and his ilk just laugh, knowing that most of the sheep out there will give in and support whatever has an “R” stuck to its name.


61 posted on 04/10/2013 5:44:34 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Gay marriage nor gun control are uppermost in most American’s minds. The media and hyphenated names keep harping on the issues making it seem like they are and the GOP falls for it every time. Sequester, the fiscal cliff, etc. I truly think they do it on purpose..


62 posted on 04/10/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: muawiyah

Indulge me for a moment:

Folks forget that Lincoln was not reelected in 1864 by the Republican Party. He was nominated and elected by the National Union Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_%28United_States%29

In my opinion, that’s exactly what we need now.

In order to work though, it must be premised on about a half dozen or so absolutely non-negotiable principles.

I already have them written, and have the whole structure ready to go, if anyone is interested.


63 posted on 04/10/2013 5:47:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Constitutional Oath.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

And proudly and LOUDLY proclaim their conservatism for doing so.


64 posted on 04/10/2013 5:47:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: RicocheT

-—— Original Message -——

-—— Original Message -——
To: vicki@wiba.com
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Priebus Wrong Again (revised 4/8/2013)

Why did the Republicans lose in 2012 ? While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap that was not the reason Republicans lost the 2012 election . The gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud. Expecting voters to know what is going on and relying on MSM to do so, and not confronting MSM’s blatant bias is just part of the reason for our 2012 great loss..Or for GOPES {Goverment Of the People Eite Snob(s) and used because it rhymes with dopes} to address media bias or Romney to call Obama a congenital liar which if we had an independent media would make a news bulletin . Let alone point out that the fact and figures released by the White House are allways questionable is another or call him a “socialist”.is perhaps more than one could expect.. While that played a significant role that was not the major factor..

But the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign came up with.

They violated the first principle, ignoring the “Bread and Butter Issues” which affected everyones pocketbook. That is the greatest violation when running a campaign. The basic mechanics of campaigning (without going into the sacrosanct”social issues “) which could have been defended but are not gone into here or addressing faux pas. These could have been handled using the standard dissmissive devices used by experienced campaign managers. and minimized.

These “architects” choked on political correctness and tripped over past positions on global warming and Romneycare. Both of which were expanded into serious pocketbook issues created by the Obama regime.Then after losing mourned over blamed the “Republican” approach as lacking in “demographics” when the election post mortum was conducted. Demographics .is a phoney issue generated by opponents and driven by MSM. ; Energy and AHCA (Obamacare) reached into very “demographic” in the political play book .The GOPES running this show are now paying the price because they didn’t confront it...”.

Instead they allowed the opponent and the Mainlining Socialist Media which feeds the US main stream of communications both print and “optical” to set the agenda and they continue to do so...
One of the basics was to re-inforce what the tea partys set out to do in 2010. Defeat the AHCA known as Obamacare. If the Republicans articulated what was in that piece of legislation and defacto supported those disparate groups known as the “tea party” efforts by that articulation. There would never have been any second term

Politically, It wouldn’t have been necessary to identify with any group but to challange them which this campaign did. Then come up with a party reorganization concept with what the late Chicago Tribune publisher Colonel McCormack during the FDR administration used to call” me too Republicans” considering the socialist/marxist direction the democrat party has taken including denying the existence of God is absured.

Besides failing to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama past due 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obamas gagging energy resources (a socialist construct never branded as such) with policies requiring reliance on intermittent sources wind and solar and that resulted in massive failure and corruption (barely re-mentioned)..Rrestricted use of drilling, and the effective banning use of coal for electrification , and the restrctions on fracking,.The resulting prices doubling or even trippling on everything. There a connection could have been made to those on restricted incomes forcing a dependency of government but was never done.. This was a dream bread and butter issue for the GOP which reached into every ‘demographics’ pocketbook.

They could have even ridiculed accepting the Democrat definition of the hyphenated African-Hispanic -Americans . I personally don’t believe in hyphenated Americans. Our passports reads Americans. Not Afro-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, Gay-American, Honky-American, Rich -American, hyphenated marriage as in “gay/ opposite sex Marriage, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. .

When I see an American who is black or an asian who happens to be of a different skin color that person is an American first and the skin color secondary. While that may be too idealized it should be a political goal. Much of that feeling was articluated in speech made by Reagan to CPAC in 1979. Worse yet the use of those devisive campaign tactics by this regime has never been connected to the increase in racial criminal attactks on whites and asians by black youths to that policy .What’s even worse it’s gone unchallanged by any notable Republican in a leadership role.

Those hypenated terms affore mentioned created and used by the democrat party , since they seriously decided to remove any reference to God or The Creator at their 2012 convention remove any resemblance to the party of old . Hypenation should be applied to them. Hyphenated into Demo-Coms. Which every book thumping or simply devout God believing Christian,Jew and even Moslem should treat such as persons espousing that doctrine as.spreading the asian flu or filled with leprosy..... With disgust !

Then there is the impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents, or thousands of $20 per hour “Navigators” needed to explain Obamacare 62 pages of regulations and on and on. Let alone touch Benghazi and foreign policy even with a 10 foot pole but which was left to languish.

Lastly Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it. Even after the Christi thing if that was brought up it would have blunted the impact.

Romney, Rove, the RINOS and the GOPES could have loaded their cannons up with grape shot but decided instead to play games and throw darts..

What can be done ? Fire every one who supports that concept.

Any campaign theme should be based on this;

IT’S TIME TO GET THIS GOVERNMENT OUT

OUT OF OUR FACE AND OUR POCKET BOOK

Jerry Bader also received this. McKenna had Priebus on today and switched to Levin
http://www.theusmat.com/


65 posted on 04/10/2013 5:52:18 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause..Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: cardinal4

Thing is, the GOP gives in on about EVERY issue.

The bottom line is that Bhoner and Co have the constitutional power of the purse. They could have gridlocked EVERY SINGLE ISSUE the Dems throw out there. But instead, they contribute members to the Gang of Pick-A-Number, strip us of money, rights and more, and call it good in the name of ‘compromise’.

Again. Bhoner could totally shut down the Dems via the power of the purse. Rule by minority. Just like the Dems did and do every time they ‘lose power’. But that’s a misnomer as they NEVER lose power. The GOP historically has ensured they get what they want through incrementalism.


66 posted on 04/10/2013 5:52:53 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ansel12

Gay Marriage was “given” to Massachusetts by a corrupt female GLESN supporting supreme court justice and a legislature that was too pussified to follow the law and allow the people to vote in spite of an overwhelmingly supported referendum to allow the PEOPLE to VOTE.

Granted Mitt has no balls, but his hands were somewhat tied at the time.

Please stop spreading this rumor, Gay marriage should be illegal in MA but the state is so blatantly corrupt that No One enforces the laws.

End of story.


67 posted on 04/10/2013 5:53:00 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Norm Lenhart

You know it


68 posted on 04/10/2013 5:53:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: EternalVigilance

you don’t need to change the name ~ just the top end committees. they must be severed and dispatched to the four quarters of the continent ~


69 posted on 04/10/2013 5:53:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Still leaves all the mercenary aids and middle management to corrupt and derail any new blood.

Nope. Corrupt to the core. Why waste resource and time fixing an albatross? Answer? You don’t.


70 posted on 04/10/2013 5:56:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: bigbob

Plugs is an idiot. Hillary might be able to pull it off.


71 posted on 04/10/2013 5:56:08 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Uncle Miltie

We just need somewhere to bolt to. I left the party, hang up on them when they call, and mail their crap back to them on their dime.

But now I am a man with out a party. Granted, even when I was with the GOP I was a man with out a party..

We need a party and I am afraid the tea party has already been infected.


72 posted on 04/10/2013 5:58:37 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: okie01

Remember Karl Rove’s Conservative Victory Project? A group founded by Rove to stop conservative insurgents. Haley Barbour left the group. But guess who joined Rove’s group, Woody Johnson - owner of the NY Jets - major fundraiser for Mitt Romney.


73 posted on 04/10/2013 5:59:50 PM PDT by yongin (SoCons will not be kicked to the curb under the guise of the Truce.)
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To: yongin

“A group of high-profile social conservatives warned Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus in a letter this week that their supporters could abandon the GOP if the party seeks to change its position on social issues, particularly same-sex marriage. “

The Libs in the GOP MORE THAN THE DEMOCRATS, are responsible for what has happened under Obama.

Boehner, McConnell, McCain, et al totally CAVED after Obama won in 2008 and are doing it again.

After having LOST the 2008 and 2012 elections with “moderate” candidates (really semi-libs) their prescription for future success is to mold the moribund GOP into Democrat light.

I have HAD IT with these feckless capons. When the Dems loose, they come back fighting mad and attribute their losses to ANYTHING but their political philosophies to which they adhere fang and claw.

WHENEVER the GOP looses and election, these pieces of human putrescence sprout up and say we were “too conservative”.

Reince (REINCE??? Ever hear of ANYONE named “REINCE”) can go perform an anatomical impossibility - take Boehner, McConnell and Chris Christie with him, and I will support ANY conservative candidate running in a third political party.

To save the nation’s ills and secure defeat of the Marxists in the Democrat Party, we need a political party which BELIEVES in its message and the people who support them.

Not this collection of soul-less eunuchs.


74 posted on 04/10/2013 6:01:05 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: yongin

The GOP needs Dr. Kavorkian.


75 posted on 04/10/2013 6:01:55 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: Norm Lenhart

So, what to do? I live in the town where Winchester makes rifle bullets, which is in the state with the strictest gun laws, figure that one out. Illinois is a very conservative state save Cook and DuPage counties which keep the state blue. Vote fraud and dim voters make for a thin margin, yet the state is solid blue. And it has gone national..


76 posted on 04/10/2013 6:03:30 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: acapesket

It isn’t a rumor, and your standard post is not the “end of story”

Here is a link to the Governor’s place in creating “gay marriage”, he is also known for supporting homosexualizing the military and the Boy Scouts. http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/timeline.html

This is taken from a letter personally written by Governor Romney, the letter explains how he is truly dedicated to the homosexual agenda.

“”As a result of our discussions and other interactions with gay and lesbian voters across the state, I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for Americas gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent.

I am not unaware of my opponent’s considerable record in the area of civil rights, or the commitment of Massachusetts voters to the principle of equality for all Americans. For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponent’s record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.

We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and the bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.

As we begin the final phase of this campaign, I need your support more than ever. By working together, we will achieve the goals we share for Massachusetts and our Nation.

Sincerely, W. Mitt Romney””


77 posted on 04/10/2013 6:03:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: cardinal4
Very good point; they know real conservatives will never for a Dem so they keep showing us the goat. I have abandoned them, but many wont, and as I said, the GOPe knows this..

I may not be voting for Dems, but I sure as hell ain't wasting another vote on the GOP's back-stabbing asses.

78 posted on 04/10/2013 6:06:30 PM PDT by EricT. (The Republican Party is a friend to conservatives the way Pakistan is an ally in the War On Terror.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
When you ruin someone's credit rating you've usually hurt them pretty bad ~ but this is in line with political theory regarding the electoral phenomenon known as the single member district.

Over time such a system will evolve/devolve to having two large coalition groups ~ you can call them parties if you want. That's because to win you need 50% + 1 vote ~ else you lose.

Starting up a new party requires you to enter a situation where there are two large coalition parties that divide up about 100% of the voters!

As the Republicans proved in the 1850s it's a lot easier to create a National Committee and invite in residual elements (organized at the state level) of the Whigs and the Abolitionists.

As you know the Abolitionists are the only large mass movement in American history that succeeded in almost becoming a political party on its own ~ with nationwide resources and capabilities.

They didn't do it but a small group in Wisconsin, and another in Michigan succeeded in welding together the Whig factions and the Abolitionists!

79 posted on 04/10/2013 6:06:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I don’t have any problem with the name, per se. The name “republican” is an honorable one at its core.

I’m a republican. But I’m not a Republican.

What I have in mind takes all of that fully into account.


80 posted on 04/10/2013 6:07:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Constitutional Oath.)
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