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Anyone else getting the idea that this is just another Gnostic piece of trash?
1 posted on 04/08/2013 8:06:25 PM PDT by caldera599
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To: caldera599

One of much trash.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 8:07:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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It’s definitely Gnostic, as is much of the so called “lost Gospels”.

I feel like people would be far less interested if academics were blunter about what they are, forgeries and fabrications concocted often centuries after Christ’s death and resurrection.


3 posted on 04/08/2013 8:10:42 PM PDT by Shadow44
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Don Imus recently tried to use the so-called Gospel of Judas to make the blasphemous accusation that Jesus was homosexual. My first though was, “Imus is going to Hell”, but my second though was “Why would you take ANY writings by the man who betrayed Jesus as being useful?” I question the authenticity of this ‘discovery’ anyway.


4 posted on 04/08/2013 8:15:41 PM PDT by Viennacon
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If anyone wants to learn how to be a good socialist or communist, MSNBC can offer a lot of insight. But if anyone wants to become acquainted with sound biblical doctrine and the basis for what is received as scripture by the church, MSNBC has little useful to offer.


5 posted on 04/08/2013 8:20:13 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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Sorry y’all ‘scholars’ — the council of Nicea has had the final word on this subject.

All you latecomers are, er....late. We definitely do not need your advice.


6 posted on 04/08/2013 8:25:21 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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From Wikipedia, Pope Francis’ Education. I fear it’s going to come out in bad format.

Anyway, point is, most people, Catholics included, don’t have any idea about the scholarship of the average Cardinal or bishop.

They see “scholars say” blah blah or some stupid novelist (Dan Brown) says what ever and they buy it.

They don’t think to check credentials. And they’re raising kids - or leaving that to some leftist group of friends and teachers.

I’d say the Pope could say a final on this heretical load of trash, but what silly Oprah Catholic former coed would take his word over Oprah’s book of the month?

Bergoglio studied at the archdiocesan seminary Inmaculada Concepción in Villa Devoto, Buenos Aires City, and humanities in Santiago, Chile.

In 1960, Bergoglio obtained a licentiate in philosophy from the Colegio Máximo San José in San Miguel. In 1964 and 1965, he taught literature and psychology at the Colegio de la Inmaculada, a high school in the Province of Santa Fe, Argentina, and in 1966 he taught the same courses at the Colegio del Salvador in Buenos Aires City.

In 1967, Bergoglio finished his theological studies . . . He attended the Facultades de Filosofía y Teología de San Miguel (Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel), a seminary in San Miguel. He served as the Master of novices for the Province there and became a professor of theology

In 1980 he was named the rector of the Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel in San Miguel, and served in that capacity until 1986. He spent several months at the Sankt Georgen Graduate School of Philosophy and Theology in Frankfurt, Germany, while considering possible dissertation topics, before returning to Argentina to serve as a confessor and spiritual director to the Jesuit community in Córdoba.

He often woke up hours before his classmates so that he could celebrate Mass with Czmil.[36]


7 posted on 04/08/2013 8:27:19 PM PDT by stanne
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It actually is very old, but it is not authentic.

If, 1700 years from now, an archaeologist finds a text written in Vancouver in 1985 explaining that John Wilkes Booth was a personal friend of Abraham Lincoln and that Lincoln wanted to commit suicide and hired Booth to do the job - well, they may be able to prove that it really was written in Vancouver in 1985 and is thus "auhentically" an ancient document, it still will not be an authentic account of Lincoln's life.

8 posted on 04/08/2013 8:29:05 PM PDT by wideawake
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So what if it dates to 300? Authentic Scripture was written during the life of the Apostles, and there were hundreds, if not thousands of copies circulating. Not this rubbish.


9 posted on 04/08/2013 8:31:54 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." —R.C. Sproul)
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Total rubbish.


11 posted on 04/08/2013 8:36:24 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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Gee he was helping Jesus. I guess that is why he hanged himself.


12 posted on 04/08/2013 8:37:20 PM PDT by Venturer
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This Gospel of Judas is very odd.

Maybe I'm looking over something, but I don't remember reading about the Gospel of Judas in my "The Bible for Dummies".

I'll recheck. <8^)

13 posted on 04/08/2013 8:39:26 PM PDT by hummingbird
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It’s a gnostic text. It’s of genuine historical interest in that it tells you about gnostic beliefs in the third century. But for telling you anything about Jesus, the Apostles, or the real Judas, it’s historically worthless.


17 posted on 04/08/2013 9:02:50 PM PDT by Hilda
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18 posted on 04/08/2013 9:03:30 PM PDT by narses
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how long before they tell us that Jesus and Judas were married or something?


19 posted on 04/08/2013 9:10:26 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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B.S. and I don’t mean Bible Study


20 posted on 04/08/2013 9:14:10 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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I watched a show on TV about this last weekend. I wasn’t convinced of anything. The “scholars” involved were out to prove Judas was a nice guy who conspired with Jesus to help get Jesus crucified. BS.


21 posted on 04/08/2013 9:34:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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I have never understood that part of the story. Jesus knew Judas was going to betray him and indeed needed him to so the authorities could arrest him. This was part of “God's plan”.

So why was Judas vilified and driven to suicide?

22 posted on 04/08/2013 9:39:01 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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A piece of trash it is but it will produce reams of silliness about it was repressed because it reveals the “true” story.


24 posted on 04/08/2013 10:08:59 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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The book sounds more like something someone under orders from Caiaphas or another High Priest would write. Remember there was an ongoing effort to discredit Christ. I haven’t read it and sure don’t intend to.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 10:14:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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I’ve always believed Judas did what was asked of him. When Jesus was asked who would betray him and He responded “The one who dips his bread when I dip mine”, all Judas had to do was not dip the bread. It’s my belief that Jesus was leaving it up to Judas as to whether or not to be known throughout eternity as a traitor.

I also believe when Jesus said “You betray the Son of Man with a kiss”, He was acknowledging that He knew Judas loved Him.

Finally, the Priests and Romans who crucified Him went to Heaven. Jesus asked that His Father forgive them. He interceded on their behalf just like He interceded on our behalf.

I don’t wish to get into heated arguments. It’s my beliefs and has been as long I’ve known the story.


27 posted on 04/08/2013 10:37:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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