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Ron Paul launches his own home-school curriculum
The Daily Caller ^ | 4-8-13 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 04/08/2013 5:43:40 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes

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To: mnehring; bigheadfred

Thank You Both!


21 posted on 04/08/2013 6:15:40 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: mnehring

The article says that the curriculum is “free.” If so, the students won’t be losing money on it.


22 posted on 04/08/2013 6:22:56 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes; no-to-illegals
The article says that the curriculum is “free.” If so, the students won’t be losing money on it.

What about the free lunch program??

23 posted on 04/08/2013 6:26:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Tired of Taxes

Go to the site. It is just a loss leader. They do offer some content for free (stuff you can get pretty much anywhere online for free including some of Gary North’s other sits and YouTube), you have to pay for pretty much everything else, from forums, to tests, to a majority of the lessons.

RonPaulCurriculum.com

The actual cost is $250 per year +$50 per course (plus it looks like fees for the forums, etc). (a lot of that is even charged for K-5 they claim are free).

So it isn’t free.

Also, it also appears it doesn’t have curriculum for any of the basics for K-5 like math, they are recommending buying that from Khan Academy - http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/public/department52.cfm


24 posted on 04/08/2013 6:29:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I wouldn’t expect testing to be free. But it appears the curriculum itself is/will be free - much like Khan Academy and so many other educational websites/internet sources are.

For the record, I don’t know if the curriculum will be worthwhile or not. But it’s good for us all to know about it. I’m glad you posted your opinion of it, too, so that the idea can be batted around a bit here.


25 posted on 04/08/2013 6:39:53 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

I think the fact that this is run by Gary North should send up a LOT of red flags. Heck, when even Ron Paul sites are trashing it, you know something is wrong. This is one step off of getting curriculum from Alex Jones.


26 posted on 04/08/2013 6:44:35 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
The curriculum is free for K-5. It is a loss-leader until 6th grade, like you said. However, if parents want to participate in the online forums, then they will have to pay $250 per year for that.

The Khan Academy is free. The Robinson Curriculum is not free, but it has been around awhile and is an established homeschooling curriculum.

As a parent of a current 4th grader, I would not mind looking into this for my kid. I would probably view it as supplemental, though, not as his curriculum for the entire 5th grade.

27 posted on 04/08/2013 6:53:06 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

I would suggest highly screening it first. The big red flag is the person who is making all this, Gary North. Not exactly close to a reliable source on anything.


28 posted on 04/08/2013 6:54:25 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Tom Woods is the guy behind the history subjects. Do you have thoughts on him?


29 posted on 04/08/2013 6:58:12 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The little I know of Tom Woods, I don’t think he is that bad at least in comparison to Gary North. No red flags go up on him. I have political and historical disagreements but I don’t know of any scamming or completely over the top kook stuff like North.

He seems to be along the lines of Chuck Baldwin or Pat Buchanan. If that is your cup of tea, probably fine.


30 posted on 04/08/2013 7:03:18 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I will definitely screen it first. Thanks!


31 posted on 04/08/2013 7:05:56 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: mnehring
Apparently Gary North is the Director of Curriculum Development for this program. He wrote an essay entitled, "The Needless Lack of Self-Confidence of Most Home-Schooling Mothers," in which he claimed that the reason most home schooling mothers who have completed homeschooling their children do not busy themselves with writing and producing free curriculum for the next generation of homeschoolers is that they lack self-confidence. Now, I am rarely accused of lacking self-confidence, and I fear I border on the other extreme. I wrote him suggesting that most homeschool moms who are done with their task might be interested in other things, like taking the opportunity to earn a little money, perhaps even a little by selling the curriculum they write. His response to me was not polite....

I would be very careful about depending on someone like this for my curriculum.

32 posted on 04/08/2013 7:44:37 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: ConjunctionJunction

just buy Robinson Curriculum. No need for this one.


33 posted on 04/08/2013 8:17:26 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Professional Engineer

ping


34 posted on 04/08/2013 8:25:51 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: Tired of Taxes
Would you use this curriculum?

no... this would not work for us... perhaps bits and pieces of it would when we are studying American History... we strive to give our children a classical education... as close the the type of education Thomas Jefferson, John Monroe, John Calvin and Martin Luther received... one that would have been required to enter the doors of Princeton when Jonathan Edwards was its president...

however, i do see it being valuable in different circumstances... good for him...

35 posted on 04/08/2013 8:32:32 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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they lack self-confidence. Now, I am rarely accused of lacking self-confidence, and I fear I border on the other extreme. I wrote him suggesting that most homeschool moms who are done with their task might be interested in other things, like taking the opportunity to earn a little money, perhaps even a little by selling the curriculum they write. His response to me was not polite....

good for you! to me, part of the beauty of homeschooling is customizing my children's education... i would not buy a canned curriculum, and i would not develop a canned curriculum... i have developed classical literature supplements, but not something that is all encompassing... and i sell mine... i do not give it away... i cannot afford to... it costs me in time and money... he sounds like a moron... most homeschooling mothers i know do not lack self-confidence...

36 posted on 04/08/2013 8:40:43 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: mnehring

Thank you for posting your research on this subject. This is the first I have heard of it but you’ve made some very good posts on this (and any others over the years).


37 posted on 04/08/2013 10:39:55 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: mnehring
it also appears it doesn’t have curriculum for any of the basics for K-5 like math, they are recommending buying that from Khan Academy
I confess that if I were assaying to create a curriculum specifically for liberal arts - what is called social studies and English in elementary and secondary school - I wouldn’t lift a finger to create my own math curriculum in competition with Khan.

Not that I suppose that Khan is the last and only word on math education - IMHO it would be good to see others “go and do likewise” to what Khan has done - but that Khan is definitely good enough, for anyone who has other fish to fry outside of math and science.

Khan is “good enough,” at the very least, and he gets pride of place as the pioneer of a very powerful form of schooling. And will IMHO have his place in the history of education, no matter who may come along behind him and do some things better - or just different, in some way(s) which some students might prefer.
I certainly didn’t foresee YouTube as the enabling technology, but I argued back before the Internet that computers would become powerful educational tools which would greatly facilitate learning, back when the only software available was still “drill and practice” oriented. I showed Khan to a HS math teacher, and her response was “I guess my job isn’t as secure as I thought!”

Whenever I talk to a parent who mentions that their child is having trouble in math, I tell them about Khan and tell them it’s free and they can’t afford not to check it out. I know that a couple of them are using it successfully to get their children up to speed in math. My brother’s grandson, for one . . .


38 posted on 04/09/2013 3:33:59 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: mnehring

Whether the curriculum is “recognized” or “accredited” is irrelevant to homeschooling. In fact, such a concept is actually against the whole idea of home education. If what you teach must be “approved”, that defeats the whole purpose of controlling your own kids’ education.


39 posted on 04/09/2013 4:32:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Barking Loon Press?

(Well, you asked.)


40 posted on 04/09/2013 11:00:34 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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