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The price of going soft on cannabis: Labour's experiment 'pushed up hard drug use and crime'
dailymail.co.uk ^ | April 5, 2013 | Steve Doughty

Posted on 04/07/2013 12:11:59 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

[UK] Labour's liberalisation of the cannabis laws was a disaster that pushed up drug use and crime and doubled the number of drug victims in hospital beds, two major research studies said yesterday.

They found that after police were told to go easy on cannabis smokers, there were increases in assaults, theft and car theft, burglaries, vandalism and anti-social behaviour.

The chance that a young person who had never smoked cannabis would try the drug went up by a quarter after it became unlikely they would get more than a warning if caught by police, one project found.

The likelihood that they would smoke it on a regular basis went up by 8 per cent.

According to a second study, an experiment in relaxing cannabis laws on the streets of South London led to a rise of 40 to 100 per cent in the numbers of men admitted to hospital due to their use of harder drugs.

That report, by researchers from the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said: ‘We find the depenalisation of cannabis had significant longer-term impacts on hospital admissions related to the use of hard drugs.’

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: legaldrugs; libertarian
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Comment #81 Removed by Moderator

To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s funny to me how similar the language of the gun grabbers and drug warriors is. They’re both quite terrified at the idea of people having ready legal access to stuff the people already have ready illegal access to.


82 posted on 04/08/2013 10:07:34 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: discostu
See post #80 - his head may explode.
83 posted on 04/08/2013 10:15:59 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Your opinion on the three studies is invalid due to your fanatical defense of drug use.

You crave drugs, so you reject all studies that show the great harm of drug use.

In the past weeks I have seen other FReepers note how you frequently push the pro-drugs agenda.

In short - you are unqualified to give any reasonable opinion on the subject.


84 posted on 04/08/2013 10:19:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Your opinion on the three studies is invalid due to your fanatical defense of drug use.

Your opinion on the three studies is invalid due to your fanatical opposition to drug legalization.

Isn't ad hominem fun?

You crave drugs,

Wrong.

so you reject all studies that show the great harm of drug use.

Wrong again. I agree that using drugs - including alcohol and tobacco - can be harmful.

Awaiting your replies to posts #80 and #81

85 posted on 04/08/2013 10:24:48 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: discostu

Oh look another pro-druggie. Comparing the right to bear arms to smoking dope.

I have posted 100 times or more in defense of gun ownership.

Now the pro-drug pushers on FR will start joining in. Do you homos (if anything you drug pushers sound a lot like the pro homosexual “marriage” losers) have each other’s phone numbers?


86 posted on 04/08/2013 10:29:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

To paraphrase your tormentors:

“You know too much - stop posting annoying facts!”


87 posted on 04/08/2013 10:33:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

wow look at all those logical fallacies and insults, oh and lies too.

Meanwhile look at what you say, and look at what gun grabbers say:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3004722/posts
Only the NRA claims that we shouldn’t pass laws that people won’t follow
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3005408/posts
NRA Wants “Guns on Demand Like You’re Buying a Hershey Bar”

Really you can swap out “guns” for “pot” in these stories and they’re quotes from you. Which brings up the question: since you clearly understand that the gungrabbers logic is deeply flawed what makes you think that logic suddenly becomes not flawed when applied to something else?

And of course there’s the other question: if you think your logic is so flawed it can’t stand up without insults and lies, why aren’t you smart enough to just shutup and stop embarrassing yourself spewing bullying BS?


88 posted on 04/08/2013 10:37:46 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Your posts are meaningless, as these studies look at periods of time and the commonality of illegal activity and drug use.

You made the claim that drug abuse was rising up to 100% before the studies, and then refuse to offer why...

If my head explodes it will be from laughing at you.


89 posted on 04/08/2013 10:40:54 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: discostu

So what suddenly brought you here?

Your boyfriend can’t handle a discussion himself?

Again, I have posted regularly for guns, including this morning.

Have you posted against homo “marriage”?

I seriously doubt it.


90 posted on 04/08/2013 10:47:59 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You made the claim that drug abuse was rising up to 100% before the studies

No - that's your functional illiteracy talking.

91 posted on 04/08/2013 10:49:40 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Belligerence is no substitute for facts, in fact belligerence is proof you know you have no facts. Call me when you can actually have a fact. I won’t hold my breath.


92 posted on 04/08/2013 10:50:06 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
You are too burntout to even know what you are posting. Here it is:
the press reports don't even say that crime rates and drug use hadn't been increasing before depenalization of cannabis.

94 posted on 04/08/2013 10:54:31 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Only drug losers would equate smoking crack with the constitutional right to own guns.

LoL!


95 posted on 04/08/2013 10:59:49 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

‘Have you posted against homo “marriage”?’

I have:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3001542/posts?page=241#241
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3001151/posts?page=70#70
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2999649/posts?page=27#27
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2998424/posts?page=194#194


96 posted on 04/08/2013 11:06:08 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: discostu

So all it takes to shake you druggies is to call you out on homosexual “marriage”.

Damn I’m Good!


97 posted on 04/08/2013 11:06:09 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You haven't posted in the following thread - tell us what's wrong with that gungrabbing logic:

"Suicide Risk Linked to Rates of Gun Ownership, Political Conservatism" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3004771/posts

Only drug losers would equate smoking crack with the constitutional right to own guns.

That article didn't even mention crack or any other drug. Try again: tell us what's wrong with that gungrabbing logic.

99 posted on 04/08/2013 11:10:39 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Up to 100% is the number in the study we were talking about here.

Your denial is just childish.


100 posted on 04/08/2013 11:12:15 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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