Posted on 04/04/2013 10:49:26 AM PDT by jazusamo
Have it your way. I don’t really care.
Ever had a hunting lic recived any outdoor/hunting magazines, went to any internet gun sites.
Posted stuip statements on what you are going to do on the internet.
You are on the list and the gun grabbers are not going to belive you no matter how much you yell that you don't have any as they drag you out the door.
Look for the CT,NY,and CO gun control laws to land up in the courts, gurentee.
Please see post number 43. Thank-you.
All of the most influential constituents behind politics are socially pathological socialists, afraid that former producers of the private sector will somehow starve their rackets (thus, gun control and even more regulations). Most of the contemporary voices in politics are voices of useless sturgeons of recirculating debt. They produce nothing but “gatekeeping” against new competition. But before long, we’ll see their debt regime support fall out from under them followed by new leadership in business and politics.
The Maryland Senate passed the amended SB 281 a few hours ago. It will be signed by 0we’M0r0n shortly.
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
True! More and more that call themselves Americans are selling their birthright and freedom for a bowl of Govrnment stew. It began with individuals, now an entire State has said to the rulers, “We no longer wish to be free men and women. Make us your slaves.” To me it is sickening.
Absolutely...More and more Americans could give a whit about our freedoms. Should the day come the government takes all freedoms away the weak sisters will be blubbering like spoiled brats.
Voters need to figure out what’s important.
They need to vote for the strongest conservatives.
This business of compromising our principles to buy more votes is disgusting.
We already have the “Junior High Party”, who have no values in the hopes of attracting the most friends.
The candidate who compromises on “Life” issues, is the same one who’s going to vote for “a little gun control”, and a little intrusion by government into restricting your Religious beliefs.
Well said.
Legally, the federal government is prohibited from collecting and storing data from Forms 4473 (firearms purchases). It is against Federal law under the 1986 FOPA. In my state, a CCWL obviates the need for a NICS check, so there is only a Form 4473.
The dealers retain the forms and only have to surrender them on a court order for a specific firearm (say a serial number of a weapon used in a crime) or when they go out of business. That said, they (ATF and the rest of the government) will stoop to lowest lows and try to get the information from private parties and other agencies, gullible gun shop owners, etc. However, it is still against the law. And, they cannot use a purchase they say you made against you without some prior court action documenting the need for them to have the information.
As for groups, credit card purchases, etc. yes, the NSA has record of it; they have record of when you last took a dump, I’d expect. But as long as there are still rules of law, and due process and innocent until proven guilty, you have to assume somebody somewhere in this government is still honest. Otherwise, we should all be out in force in complete armed rebellion for there is no other logical course of action.
So much for the law they don't follow it. Or only when it suits them.
I too believe that the left and the 0 regime are involved in many what I think are staged shootings to create situations that the MSM can over sensationalize to sway the soft skilled liberals’s opinions on gun control. Just need an insider with a conscience to step forward unless 0’s doing cleanup doing on witnesses after each shooting which would probably be his m.o. given his track record. If only Reggie Love would come forward. I bet he knows a lot from pillow talk sessions...: )
They did not do that here in Georgia...you’d have to show me proof of that.
Additionally, what you claim makes no sense. Weapons obtained prior to 1994 were under grandfathered pre-ban status. I had TWO.
Besides being against federal law to examine, much less copy what you say were applicable AWB rifle potentials, their 1994 AWB prohibited sales from a certain date, so there wouldn’t be any Form 4473, and they had NO applicable Federal law backed right to examine prior 4473s on that specious basis. If this was done, it was not widespread, and done only in places like California, where you’re from or some other blue state. They wouldn’t have gotten away with that here in Georgia.
Believe what you want Having had a FFL back then I know of dealers that watched BATF agents walk out of their stores with copies of 4473s.
When asked about it all that was said was how deep to want us to look.
When talking with other dealers it seem to them that the BATF was expecting the confiscation portion to pass and they wanted to have the records before they could be destroyed.
It still was illegal and you or the dealers you know fell for it apparently. It did not happen here. There were attempts by the ATF recently in Arizona to do what you say, but the dealers there apparently knew their rights more fully and sent the ATF packing without the illegal copies they tried to bully.
Acquiescing to crap like that is in my mind the equivalent of the burying of weapons you condemn.
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