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To: Nachum

Something sinister or just a coincidence - seal Team 6 members are being killed off. people opposed to Obama. seems to be Chicago Political machine at work.


3 posted on 03/31/2013 8:11:29 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200

Hard to tell if it’s sinister. The parachute accident was likely just an accident.

But, I am convinced that a former FReeper was on the ST-6 helicopter that crashed (shot down) in August 2011. He went silent just days before, after a very active posting history.


4 posted on 03/31/2013 8:16:30 AM PDT by OwenKellogg
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A sad coincidence. Even before Obama ever hit headlines Tier 1 and Tier 2 operators were dying during training - and it can be argued more have died in training than in combat in the last three decades. To be in a Tier 1 unit like Devgru or CAG requires some pretty life-like training, and it gets lethal at times. Same applies to Tier 2 units like the 'normal' SEAL teams and Army Special Forces.

Following the Bin Laden raid Devgru has hit the national media big-time, hence all the 'SEAL Team 6' stories. Anything happens it gets reported, when in the past it was never reported due to opsec (and anyways the media was never interested then). There are movies, magazine articles, books ....goodness, even a couple of former Devgru operators got in a spot of trouble over assisting a video game company make their game more realistic. By the way I am not hitting out at Devgru - simply saying they have become quite public in a way they weren't before, and some people in the special forces community have spoken against that publicity.

As an example, when was the last time you heard about CAG? The so called 'Delta Force' guys still maintain anonymity, and thus their could have been all sorts of mishaps that are simply never reported.

Anyways, Obama has nothing to do with this. This was an unfortunate incident that claimed the life of a brave American who was the closest thing to Superman this side of Krypton. May he rest in peace, and God bless others like him.

16 posted on 03/31/2013 10:45:01 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: hondact200
A sad coincidence. Even before Obama ever hit headlines Tier 1 and Tier 2 operators were dying during training - and it can be argued more have died in training than in combat in the last three decades. To be in a Tier 1 unit like Devgru or CAG requires some pretty life-like training, and it gets lethal at times. Same applies to Tier 2 units like the 'normal' SEAL teams and Army Special Forces.

Following the Bin Laden raid Devgru has hit the national media big-time, hence all the 'SEAL Team 6' stories. Anything happens it gets reported, when in the past it was never reported due to opsec (and anyways the media was never interested then). There are movies, magazine articles, books ....goodness, even a couple of former Devgru operators got in a spot of trouble over assisting a video game company make their game more realistic. By the way I am not hitting out at Devgru - simply saying they have become quite public in a way they weren't before, and some people in the special forces community have spoken against that publicity.

As an example, when was the last time you heard about CAG? The so called 'Delta Force' guys still maintain anonymity, and thus their could have been all sorts of mishaps that are simply never reported.

Anyways, Obama has nothing to do with this. This was an unfortunate incident that claimed the life of a brave American who was the closest thing to Superman this side of Krypton. May he rest in peace, and God bless others like him.

17 posted on 03/31/2013 10:45:16 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: hondact200

Oh, come now. In 1970 I went through dangerous training and it WAS that : Dangerous training. As a dumb newbie I was laying around and a young Sergant said “ Ain’t you worried?” I said “Why? Ten thousand people went through this before me and nobody got killed.” He said “Wanna bet?”


20 posted on 03/31/2013 1:40:50 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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