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Why Your Kid Can't Get A Job
Forbes.com ^ | March 29, 2013 | Michael S. Malone

Posted on 03/30/2013 9:48:37 AM PDT by giant sable

The Department of Labor estimates that some three million Americans with Bachelor degrees work in jobs that don’t require an education at all–janitors, barristas, bartenders and retail clerks.There are a lot of obvious reasons why junior is now living in your basement at age 25.

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To: TArcher
"I have nothing but contempt for ..."

And then there is this:


 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


161 posted on 03/31/2013 4:56:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jsanders2001

Anyone that takes “gender studies” deserves to be unemployed for:

(a) being an idiot for taking a worthless course with no employment value,(b) implying they are gay for taking the course
(c) semantically notifying your future employer that you will probably be a flamer and drama queen that won’t do your work because you are too busy posting to Facebook to get “look at me” attention
(d) all of the above


162 posted on 03/31/2013 4:56:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TArcher
"buy and be happy"

Sounds like part of their Mission Statement...




163 posted on 03/31/2013 4:58:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
...help out with Thin Mint sales...

And then on to merit badge earning with Knot Tying instruction.

164 posted on 03/31/2013 5:00:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cripplecreek

no wonder why they fired him. he promoted American values, not freakydeek homolesbos..


165 posted on 03/31/2013 5:07:33 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: svcw; TArcher
There re some areas where you must have a degree. Really hard to walk into a science lab and say “hey, I want to be a material scientist or a hospital and go, I always liked cutting stuff up, think I could handle orthopedic surgery”.

Most of the work done in the U.S. today,( not so long ago) did **not** require a university degree and was routinely done by those who merely possessed a solid 8th grade education, ambition, and native intelligence. My parents ( born 1913) and grandmother ( born 1894) would find it laughable that the check-in person at the Marriott now needs to be college educated.

Charles Murray is right! With the amount of information now available through the Internet ( much of it free and more soon coming), what is now needed are certifiable qualifying exams. It is completely possible, with today's technology to reduce the time and cost of education we simply need a means to prove to employers and others that skills have been mastered.

Really hard to walk into a science lab and say “hey, I want to be a material scientist or a hospital and go, I always liked cutting stuff up, think I could handle orthopedic surgery”.

Much of the information learned in the sciences and even in medicine does NOT require formal university or classroom attendance. The cost and time of mastering much of the foundational knowledge needed could be reduced by applying Charles Murray's suggestion of certifiable qualifying exams. Of course the mentoring needed to master laboratory skills, surgery and other treatment of patients would continue to require personal mentoring. I **know** because I have personal experience in this area.

Two examples:

1) My father, one of the highest ranked and paid engineers for his company was trained on the job, though selected night courses at the local college, and through classes taught at the company by local professors. My father was the directing engineer for his company's part in the NASA space program during the 1960s.

2) The brother-in-law of my brother's sister became one of the highest ranked executives of one of the world's largest retail chains. His formal education? Answer: High school diploma. He was born in the late 1930s. Is running one of the world's largest retail chains and catalog companies any more complex today than it was from the early 1960s to mid-1990s? Nope! I don't think so.

166 posted on 03/31/2013 5:17:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Elsie

“Those who control the past control the future
and those who control the present control the past”
—George Orwell, 1984

Got NewSpeak?


167 posted on 03/31/2013 5:34:29 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Elsie
And yet America re-elected the Problem!
 
The McSheeple have been doing that for quite a while now.
 
"Ohhhhho say can you seee...."
 
Eyes Wide Shut

"8-1984 - Lawrence King [Homosexual and alleged Pedophile] throws a lavish party in Dallas, Texas, after singing the National Anthem at the Republican National GOP Convention."

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Lawrence+king+singing+pedophile+franklin&oq=Lawrence+king+singing+pedophile+franklin

 

http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9


168 posted on 03/31/2013 5:37:46 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Marie

Exactly which Community College offers SIGINT courses?


169 posted on 03/31/2013 5:43:52 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: wintertime; svcw; Elsie

>>certifiable qualifying exams.

The X-Box Drooler generation would just find a way to cheat.

That’s the fundamental difference between what’s slithering out of today’s postmodern diploma mills and the guys your dad worked with at NASA.

Back in 2004 I was on a jury with a gentleman who was professor of physics at UC Irvine. Over the course of the trial we had lunch together and he articulated his frustrated displeasure regarding the amount (and sophistication) of cheating he observed going on among the students within his purview.

He said they rationalized their behavior via nonsense such as “everybody does it” and “that’s what you have to do to survive”.

That attitude was self-evident among those who deliberately manufactured and gamed the systemic corruption of the sub-prime industry.

“Why Your Kid Can’t Get A Job” — is more rooted in the moral relativism of the self-worshiping jobless than in their lack of technical knowledge or skill.

“By any means necessary”
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=by+any+means+necessary

Are we there yet?


170 posted on 03/31/2013 6:11:52 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

This is not the case at the Community College where I have taught for 20 years in a technical - job related - field. We have gone from 50% technical, 50% transfer credits to 90% transfer credits. Additionally, any money is being spent to build more classrooms for the transfer track. Our Welding, HVAC, nursing programs are underfunded and are being allowed to die.


171 posted on 03/31/2013 6:30:29 AM PDT by CrashCole
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To: TArcher

If we send children off to godless government K-12 schools that are run at the highest levels by Marxists and filled to the brim with teachers indoctrinated in Marxist run universities what should we expect?

1) Children who will think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

2) Children who risk learning to be comfortable with government compulsion.

3) Children who are open to the teachings of atheistic Marxism.

Proverbs 22:6 “Train up a child in the way he should go and he will not depart from it.”

Not only does this have consequences for children, it also determines the direction of a nation.


172 posted on 03/31/2013 7:01:48 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: PLMerite

All of that section was under “Intelligence Operations Studies”. Cochise College by Ft. Huachuca offers these classes to help the MI soldiers to further their careers.

My son is majoring in Automotive Technology at the moment. After two years, he’ll have an AAS and a certificate. He’s trying to also get on with a shop to get more actual work experience. He knows that he won’t be hireable with just college. (And, just for fun, he wants to take thee counter terrorism class.)


173 posted on 03/31/2013 7:33:37 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: wintertime

>>what should we expect?

Corporatism.

Meet the New Ba’al, same as the Old Ba’al
—The Who?

Ba’al being a Hebrew word for lord, owner, master, possessor... typically manifested throughout history into that theocratic and syncretic state of affairs where “COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM” and from which “TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS [American] governments are [were] instituted among men”.

When the infrastructure becomes an object of state-mandated worship, the manure wagon is headed for the wind tunnel.

“Because of this, God gave them over”
-Romans 1


174 posted on 03/31/2013 7:36:16 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Elsie

>>Joseph Smith had this problem -

"To bee or not too bee, that is the ity bity question."
--Hamlet 3/1
(As translated by the angel Moroni using the NewSpeak Dictionary, Reformed Egyptian edition)

 


175 posted on 03/31/2013 7:45:56 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Elsie
>> ... and it is a well known fact that the earlier you address a problem the less it costs...
>
> And yet America re-elected the Problem!

I'm going to say "not really".
Much of our problems go much deeper than mere elections; and certainly further than President (as you imply).

Let's compare and contrast with his opponent: One thing that has been said by [his own supporters] is that Romney would repeal Obamacare; this is patently false -- the president does not have the power to repeal law -- moreover, the method they were advocating (waivers) would only increase the powers of the Federal Government (the President in particular) because (a) the waivers themselves could be rescinded, and (b) the mere threat of rescinding a waiver could be used to extort the States.

It is the non-thinking, the "if you didn't vote for Romney, you voted for Obama", and the "never vote [third party] on principal, because it can never win" mentalities which are making such changes impossible. -- Indeed the Republican party should be hated and reviled by conservatives (especially w/ how they took their base for granted this last cycle) because they are the Party of Liars: take your pick of any platform plank and compare that with the actions of the party and you'll be amazed from abortion to immigration, from government accountability to firearms, from smaller government to principals that party is an excellent illustration of doublethink. [The democrats are better in that regard: they make claims like wanting to fundamentally change America, or keep/expand abortion -- and then they try to do it.]

176 posted on 03/31/2013 7:47:43 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: central_va

“You can turn an engineer into a good writer. The opposite is not true.”

The orignal question was, does a philosophy degree make a good writer?


177 posted on 03/31/2013 10:44:15 AM PDT by Owl558 (Think twice before speaking once)
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To: giant sable
I have learned more about how things work by surfing the net over the past 4 years than I ever learned sitting in a college classroom for 4 years almost 40 years ago. A College Education is a rip-off for most people.
178 posted on 03/31/2013 11:50:00 AM PDT by kempo
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To: TArcher
“Those who control the past control the future
and those who control the present control the past”

—George Orwell, 1984



Ol' George musta learned from the Living Prophets; past and present...

179 posted on 03/31/2013 2:03:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TArcher
“Those who control the past control the future
and those who control the present control the past”

—George Orwell, 1984



 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


180 posted on 03/31/2013 2:04:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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