Posted on 03/30/2013 9:48:37 AM PDT by giant sable
The Department of Labor estimates that some three million Americans with Bachelor degrees work in jobs that don’t require an education at all–janitors, barristas, bartenders and retail clerks.There are a lot of obvious reasons why junior is now living in your basement at age 25.
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They do.
It’s called an AAS. “Associates of Applied Science”. They get you certified and ready to work. Here are a list of majors at my son’s community college.
Administration of Justice
Agriculture
Automotive Technology
Avionics Technology
Building Construction Technology
Business Management
Computer Applications
Computer Information Systems
Computer Programming
Culinary Arts
Early Childhood Care and Education
Education
Electronics Technology
Engineering
Fire Science Technology
Information Security
Intelligence Operations Studies
Counterintelligence
Electronic Intelligence Analyst
General Intelligence Operations
Ground Surveillance Systems Operator
Human Intelligence Collector
Intelligence Analyst
Common Ground Station Operator
Imagery Analyst
Linguist
Military Intelligence Systems Maintainer
Morse Interceptor/Communications Interceptor
Multi-Sensor Operator
Signal Collector Analyst
Signals Collection/ID Analyst
Signals Intelligence Analyst
Logistics Supply Chain Management
Network Technology
Paramedicine
Professional Administrative Assistant
Professional Pilot Technology
Registered Nurse
Respiratory Therapy
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Flight Operator
Unmanned Aircraft Systems Technician
Welding Technology
I think keeping them out of the job market is more about keeping them from having their ideas tested by reality.
LOL.
Any number of the Too Big to Jail share the “qualifications” you’ve listed.
Try harder.
Affect, effect
Deprecated, depreciated
Bear, bare
The doctor? Sure I’ll buy that.
Materials science? You apparently would be surprised what can be learned without a “relevant” degree. sunkenciv’s ping list plus the chemistry from high school has served me quite well. … And the earnest lab work from my first chemistry class for learning procedures and documentation.
Sadly there's some of that even in the professional sphere.
I'm in Computer Science, for example, and I'm a big fan of the Ada programming language because it is designed to avoid bugs as early as possible -- and it is a well known fact that the earlier you address a problem the less it costs, and compile-time is the earliest that a compiler can go (Design-time is an earlier phase, but not addressable on the software/too side) -- but many companies refuse to look into "non-standard"* languages. (As an example Yahoo Stores used to be written in LISP, and then it was rewritten in C++ & perl, IIRC... despite already being a proven technology and highly adaptable.)
In some sense it's the case of "we can't hire people who know X" and "we can't teach X because it's not marketable" on the parts of employers and educators which, in turn, degrades the whole of the profession precisely because ideas aren't tested by reality. -- A good example here would be the recent "problem" of efficiently/effectively using multiple cores and parallelism; it's been solved for thirty years: Ada [for one] has *always* had the capability. (But for the "industry standard" C-style languages it's usually not provided as a language-level construct, but a library-level construct.)
* 'Standard' here being C-like (C, C++, Java, PHP, etc).
Which proves my point. You cannot throw a wide net over all MBA’s and say they are all the same. And you still have a class envy problem.
Class envy and “Blood oaths”. LOL.
Been the delusional steward of Gondor long have you?
Try harder.
There are a lot of brilliant people who come out of business schools. That said, in my personal investigations of education majors, I was surprised to learn how low on the scale of things the majority of people entering into business schools were... A large swath are almost as bad as those education majors. There are a lot of business school diploma mills out there... though by and large even they do do a better job of filtering out the lower end than education schools – which have a strong tendency to filter out the upper end.
What do useless degrees such as “gay studies” and “race in America” qualify one to do other than teach the same crap at another school? Once the market is saturated with “gay studies” teachers (with maybe a few “noted lesbian bondage experts” thrown in), where do these non-value-added fools get work?
In a real lab with a degree in material science they wouldn’t even interview, it is just to dangerous unless you know what the hell is going on.
High school wont get yo anywhere.
Unless, your view of material science is not a real world view of what the job en-tales.
Your profile page says it all.
Oh you’re quite right they typically wouldn’t interview.
But that doesn’t mean one can’t actually pick up enough of the knowledge elsewhere to legitimately compete with someone with a B.S. There is certainly more than one way to study that material, and a lot of the remainder is lab practices at the entry level.
None of this suggests that the job field is actually easy or simple, but rather that a whole lot of the important part of it is conceptual. Going through four years of college may or may not be the same thing as “knowing what is going on”, and may also or not be the same thing as “knowing what to do with it”.
College is a good path for learning materials science. I’m just saying it’s not the only path for learning how ABC and D alter the properties of E, and how to reproduce the process.
You are using a 7% figure for the cost of a car, and applying a 6% figure for the unionized persons.
BUT, those two are not equitable comparisons, as the entire cost of the car labor is UNION. We have not sold out anything. We have the greatest nation in the world, but for the policies established by the DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS in Congress! It is the policies allowed by those guys and gals that are destroying American wealth and human resources. They are committed to their path of "social justice" and "environmental justice"... or SOCIALISM by any other name.
American business folk are just trying to make a buck! Nobody is forced to buy ANY product or service, but most of us are looking at the price tag before we buy anything. Dollars only go so far!
It is not the fault of the bizness community, friend, it is you and your neighbor first and last! Consumers dictate what is being sold, by buying it!
I used to wonder about this. I think they get jobs as college administrators (taxpayer supported state universities like Bill Ayers) where they only hire their own and in govt. It could be as staffer @$70,000 in Hartford, Washington DC or Chicago, etc etc
>>MBA in general business practices/psychology.
But...
>>Because work was tight I taught myself drafting
LOL.
Psychobabble M.B.ovine A.xcrement is evidently better for hiding behind than living upon.
Ah, no after my BA in psych/polisci work was tight so I taught myself drafting.
After my MBA business/psych I had a career.
Not surprised you didn’t get it.
>>After my MBA business/psych I had a career.
Moving from Poly-sci to shoveling corporatist psychobabble manure isn’t much of a career move.
What a strange little man you are.
Did I say what my career was? No.
It is interesting that you have aversion to people being in interested in educated....however I am really not surprised.
>>My husband, is a great guy. He is the most
>>intelligent person I have even known, yet political naive
“political naive”
LOL.
Grammar and spelling not part of the mail-order psychobabble MBA curriculum?
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