[Inyo-Mono]

Thanks. It gets really old to keep hearing about how bad California is when it was Libs from out of state that came here and messed it up in the first place. Many don't seem to realize that most of California is rural, full of hunters and outdoorsmen. Unfortuately, it is the big cities along the coast full of Liberal out of state transplants and illegal immigrants that ruin this state.

[skeeter]

It gets really old to keep hearing about how bad California is when it was Libs from out of state that came here and messed it up in the first place.

It is tiresome. Those of us who've been here a few decades know how simplistic & ignorant that attitude really is.

Like most places the balance between libs and conservatives was pretty well balanced in this state up until just a few years ago.

What changed it was foreign immigration. Heavy handed statism is just more acceptable, even desirable, in the countries these people came from.

And the democrat party is more attractive to them for obvious reasons.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

The big cities are the problem everywhere and always have been.

"The mobs of great cities add just so much to the support of pure government, as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution". Thomas Jefferson

[3Fingas]

That is why I don’t want to cede one inch of this country to liberals. There are many good, conservative, patriotic Americans caught behind “enemy lines” as it were. We cannot abandon these Americans to the liberal power structures in their states. We must make common cause with them all and help them improve things in their states.

[LaRueLaDue]

Many don't seem to realize that most of California is rural, full of hunters and outdoorsmen. Unfortuately, it is the big cities along the coast full of Liberal out of state transplants and illegal immigrants that ruin this state.

Perhaps it is living in a large city that creates liberals, rather than being contaminated from outside.

It does seem that most of the liberal bastions (I love that word today!) are relatively large cities, and seem to metastisize "in-place" so to speak...

[x1stcav]

I’m an ex-Californian who got transferred to Colorado in 1991 and have stayed here. Now this place has gone to hell. The cancer occurs when a bunch of liberals move into an urban area (Fort Collins down to Denver) and get government jobs. Then, it helps to have a concentration of universities (Boulder, Colorado State at Fort Collins, etc) with a bunch of liberal know-nothing students voting for every pop cause and candidate. And then you have minority populations clustered around the urban areas who can be reliably counted on to vote for handouts.

Major urban areas are an ideological cancer in the body politic.

If you removed 4 or 5 counties clustered around Denver, Colorado would be a very conservative state.

Same with California. Have 9 coastal counties slide off into the Pacific and it’d be paradise.