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To: Kartographer
"Don’t you know if you store more than a ‘few’ days worth of preps you are a ‘tinfoil’ nut job? Just ask any lib and there are more than a few FReepers who will tell you the same thing. "

Yes, I've read such. However, I am not a true end-world doomsday prepper. My 2 realistic concerns are:
1. The BIG ONE finally hits California;
2. A dirty bomb going off in Los Angeles;

I know there are many end-world scenarios, but to be honest, I probably wouldn't want to survive after an Extinction Level Event, nor an all out nuclear war. Ever seen the movie, "The Road"? It's about a father and son trying to make their way through a post-apocalyptic world. It was probably the most realistic and depressing movie regarding that scenario.

We are simply prepared for local disasters. We have a year supply of Mountain House freeze dried foods, access to a lake (with Katadyn filters), and many other necessities, not to mention self-defense and cooperation on our street.

BTW, one thing I never see on prepper sites/shows or even read here is the 50 gallons of potable water in your home water heater, not to mention your toilet tanks and filling bathtubs if the water lines have not been cut off. That can last quite awhile if not world's end. The other matter that is never discussed is how to dispose of human fecal matter (you can pee anywhere). Our plan is a 5 gallon bucket lined with plastic bags for each use. Disposal is not a problem. Also, without showers, hygiene can be accomplished with a large supply of baby wipes (Mom To Mom). You can use them for armpits, groin, and potty wipes.

And yes, we have the crank radio (2), shaker flashlights (plus many regular flashlights and batteries), coleman stove with propane bottles, solar outside lights to bring inside, and now looking at the Sun Oven (http://www.sunoven.com/) It can not only cook, but boil water, depending on your location.

We will do okay unless an asteroid, nuclear war, devasting earthquake, or a complete meltdown of our economy. Even then have some gold coins.

That's as prepper as I'm going. We do have other items, but too numerous to list here. If you have a viable idea for a 6-12 month survival plan, please let me know. Feel free to Freepmail me or post it here. However, please be realistic about the threat.

14 posted on 03/21/2013 9:33:01 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Clearly you have missed a number of prepper threads:

To: Kartographer; Eva; All
Get the WaterBob here for cheapest price, $17.99

http://www.hurricaneprepper.com/waterbob.html

If you wnat one, get if before hurricane season which means get it now because they sell out in hurricane seaosn. This place is in Florida, down the street from where they make these WaterBobs.

130 posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:36:15 PM by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
Preppers’ Ping!!

Seems like a good time to post a lick to a new water filter I ran across over at Cheaper Than Dirt:

Manufacturer: Monolithic JWDF14
Item: CAMP-352

Just Water, monolithic ceramic drip filter works as well as the high end British ones only at a fraction of the cost!

This half-micron filter removes water-borne bacterium with a 0.5 micron efficiency which exceeds NSF standards. The ceramic filter can be cleaned with a soft brush at least 100 times, and it produces 14 gallons of drinking water per day. This system includes a ceramic filter, filter sock, and spigot.

Simply double stack two clean five gallon buckets with lids, drill a 1/2” hole in the bottom of the top bucket and through the top of the bottom buckets lid, place sock over filter and install it in the bottom of the top bucket. Drill a 3/4” hole on the side and near the bottom of the bottom bucket and install the spigot. Fill the top bucket with water from a lake, rain, tap, river or stream and in an hour you will have bacteria free water to drink in the bottom bucket.

Non-returnable, buckets not included. See our item # CAMP-309 for a food grade, standard 5 gallon bucket. Need just a filter? See our item # CAMP-354. Same ceramic filter material and made by the same company, but in common “candle” shape and without the sock or spigot.

Filters are manufactured to meet:
National Sanitation Foundation (NSF) Standard 42
National Sanitation Foundation (NSF) Standard 53
ISO 9002 Quality Standard
USA AEL Laboratories
USA Analytical Food Laboratories
USA Johns Hopkins University Laboratory
Abbot Laboratory South Africa
University of Chihuahua Mexico
British 5750 Quality Standard
England’s Water Research council (WRc) Performance Standards

The filtration efficiency is 0.5 micron
Removal capabilities as follows:
99% Arsenic 5 and 99% Arsenic 3 (special order)
99% Hydrogen Sulfide (H2S special order)
95% Chlorine and Chloramines
99% Taste
99% Odor
98% Aluminum
96% Iron
98% Lead
90% Pesticides
85% Herbicides
85% Insecticides
90% Rodenticides
85% Phenols
85% MTBE
85% Perchlorate
80% Trihalomethanes
95% Poly Aromatic Hydrocarbons
99.999% of particles larger than 0.5 micron (Staffordshire University Labs) (includes Anthrax)
99.7% of particles larger than 0.3 micron (Staffordshire University Labs)
98% of particles larger than 0.2 micron (Staffordshire University Labs)
100% Giardia Lamblia
100% Cyclospora
100% removal of live Cryptosporidium (WRc Standard)
100% removal of Cryptosporidium (NSF Standard 53 – A.C. fine dust – 4 log challenge)
100% removal of E. Coli, Vibrio Cholerae (Johns Hopkins University)
99.999% removal of Salmonella Typhil, Shigella Dysenteria, Kiebsiella Terrigena (Hyder Labs)

Product is silver impregnated and will not permit bacteria growth-through (mitosis) provides a hostile environment for all microbiological organisms and will not support their growth. Ceramic elements may be cleaned 100 or more times with a soft brush or damp cloth.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/CAMP-352?pagenumber=2

And they is a thread and instructions in my preparedness manual on making a DIY Berkey


16 posted on 03/21/2013 9:44:01 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: A Navy Vet
Also there's been a couple threads where I recomended look for theses 275 gallon totes:

18 posted on 03/21/2013 9:49:44 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: A Navy Vet

This is in my prepareness manual:

Emergency Toilets & Garbage Disposal-by Alan T. Hagan


19 posted on 03/21/2013 10:00:49 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: A Navy Vet
“The other matter that is never discussed is how to dispose of human fecal matter (you can pee anywhere). Our plan is a 5 gallon bucket lined with plastic bags for each use. Disposal is not a problem.”

I have thought of that as well. Here's what I think may work
Sort of an instant outhouse.
1.Seymour AUA2 Adjustable Auger to dig the hole.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H5T46E/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

2.Guide Gear® Pop-up Privacy Shelter with Camp Shower, also doubles as potential outhouse.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=775717

3. Rid-X or garden lime for odor control

4. Plenty of TP

5. Inflatable kids pool from Target. Instant cistern for wash water. They run about 900+ gallons some more some less.
Cover with tarp and treat water with pool shock to keep algae out. They can be filled from water line if intact or roof run off.

Water can be a problem in California insomuch as the rainy season is essentially over. What Cali does have at least along the coast is fog. Look into water harvesting from fog. Its done in the 3rd world with reasonable success

49 posted on 03/21/2013 1:53:33 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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