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To: BroJoeK
BroJo said: However, at no point in the speech did Banks hint at anything whatever having to do with either national politics or southerners.

Not in that one he doesn't, but don't worry it's coming. I just haven't gotten that far down in my pile yet.

While you're waiting, here's one of Banks's September, 1857 speeches that does touch on national politics and Southerners. He's put out becuase money is spent on Southerners in the Army and Navy, but the Southerners want to eliminate the bounties paid to fishermen. And heaven forbid! the route to the Pacific takes a Southern route, etc., etc., etc. He also says they must combine the material and moral interests. As if the Yanks were the moral ones. LOL!

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hx4pz1#page/n0/mode/1up

300 posted on 04/02/2013 11:29:18 AM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: southernsunshine; x; Sherman Logan; rockrr; Bubba Ho-Tep
southernsunshine: "While you're waiting, here's one of Banks's September, 1857 speeches that does touch on national politics and Southerners"

First of all, thanks for the link.
You seem to have inherited rusty's talents for finding actual source material, not just reports on reports. ;-)

Second, these words from Banks' in September 1857 are obviously a campaign speech -- in his first and successful run for Massachusetts governor.

And quite frankly, I like this guy!
To me he sounds just like a Republican should have sounded in those days, and for the most part, even today.
I mean, how can you do better than this? --

So how could you not vote for this guy in 1857?
And wait until you read what he said about the old partisan press and immigration issues of his time.
So far as I know, that's pretty much what Republicans have been from the beginning.

But, nowhere in this 1857 speech does Banks suggest the Federal government should abolish slavery in slave-states, or that military force should be used to accomplish that.

Any of that kind of talk only arrived later, after secessionists began rebelling and making war on the United States.

309 posted on 04/02/2013 5:18:07 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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