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To: BroJoeK

Banks’s biographer Hollandsworth says that Banks was a moderate who won support among those who thought Brown was too extreme.


256 posted on 03/30/2013 9:04:52 AM PDT by x
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To: x; Sherman Logan; lentulusgracchus
lentulusgracchus: "when John Brown was executed in 1859, and Massachusetts Gov. Nathaniel Banks responded by standing up six regiments, fully armed and equipped for the field, ready to go to Virginia to put down the South."

BJK: "Can anyone source and verify the claim that Banks responded to Brown's hanging by raising six regiments of Massachusetts state militia?"

Sherman Logan: "Remarkably difficult to find anything about what Banks did as governor.
He was known for reorganizing the militia, but I can find nothing about this having any relation at all to JB."

x: "Banks’s biographer Hollandsworth says that Banks was a moderate who won support among those who thought Brown was too extreme."

On your mention of it, I bought Hollandsworth's book.
It describes Republican Banks in 1859 as a political moderate, a "trimmer" who tried to please all sides, and usually succeeded politically.
But Banks' opposition to the radical abolitionists who supported John Brown cost Banks a united Massachusetts delegation at the 1860 Republican convention.
That in turn lost Banks his opportunity to be on the Republican national ticket as President or Vice-President.

Hollandsworth mentions nothing specific about Governor Banks' relation to the Massachusetts militia, or whether in 1859 Massachusetts' was different from other state militias.

Yes, as a state legislator in 1853 Banks did speak in favor of a militia at his states' constitutional convention, and as Governor in 1859 Banks did watch a fine parade of his state militia.
But there's no evidence any of that had to do with John Brown, or some notion of being ready to go, in lentulusgracchus' words: "to Virginia to put down the South."

Finally, we might note that a Civil War regiment started with ten companies of 100 men each, so six regiments would be about 6,000 soldiers.
In November 1860, more than a month before declaring secession, South Carolina's legislature authorized raising a 10,000 man army.
On March 6, 1861 the Confederate Congress authorized a 100,000 man army, and on May 4, 1861 authorized another 500,000.
Eventually the Confederacy fielded 1,000,000 soldiers and the Union over 2,000,000.

So Banks' six regiments in 1859 -- even if that is the right number -- were hardly adequate to even think about "going to Virginia to put down the South"

258 posted on 03/30/2013 1:56:28 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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