Posted on 03/18/2013 8:09:50 PM PDT by chessplayer
Time for the weekly grumble thread. Just the other day I was thinking, “You know what would really perk this show up? An entire episode devoted to its most annoying, chronically boring character, who hasn’t done a single interesting thing since season one. The writers need to kill a few hours anyway while we’re waiting for the big finale between Rick’s gang and Woodbury. Here’s their chance to have Andrea finally figure out that the Governor’s a sadistic megalomaniac, just like the rest of the world did 20 episodes ago.” And then, as if by magic, there it was last night — the show that I’d dreamed of, essentially “Sleeping With the Enemy” with some zombies tossed in. My only regret is that there weren’t a few more scenes of Michonne silently glowering at people, which never gets old. We’ll have to make do with just that one by the campfire.
The big chase scene in the warehouse was fine, but let’s face it, no one watching it seriously believed the Governor would be eaten. That might have happened in a show about the zombie apocalypse, where life ends brutally and unpredictably even for the most significant characters, but that’s not what this show is about. This is a show about the survivalist soap opera among Rick and the gang with zombies as backdrop. And since the soap opera requires a Final Conflict with the Governor, that’s what we’ll get. Coming next week: To save the prison, Rick must battle the Governor’s tank of sharks with frickin’ laser beams on their heads.
“The mistakes they have made haven’t yet been severe enough to make the show unwatchable (although the latest The Governor is actually Jason episode comes close). Everyone reacts to shows, movies, and books differently. Some people seem to look past sloppy writing, whereas with me, it is grating. Either way, they have created a good show, that is falling short of greatness.”
I agree completely. I still watch the show but like any show the characters have to behave in a way that fits the circumstances. These characters often dont. When escorting Rick to meet the Gov (where all hell can break loose), why does Darryl bring a crossbow instead of a rifle? When morgan got shot in the side of his bullet proof vest why was he knocked unconsious? That just doesnt happen. He could have been faking it for some reason, but usually they let you know that.
Perhaps. But it wouldn't be the first time that someone has bought it because of a sneaky zombie. Remember how Dale got it?
Also, with respect to the other comment about how people walk around like it's Sunday in the park, I think that there is some realism to that, at least to a degree. These people have been in Zombie world for at least a year. For the most part, they have figured out how to take care of the zombies. They are no longer the main threat. With that attitude, people get complacent. And then people make mistakes.
You raise an interesting point about Rick. [Comic spoiler alert--highlight below to read]
In the comics, Rick "resigns" as leader, basically for that same reason. I wonder if they'll go that route on the show?
Considering this program has already withstood 3 seasons of your obvious discontentment and has now been aporoved for a 4th, I would say your opinions are pretty much irrelevant.
But tell you what, why don't you contact the writers and ask them for a job since you obviously have the Golden touch on which direction it should take..........
I don't think that this is a very good answer. As viewers, we understand that it's not real and that there is an actor who plays Rick and the Governor and everyone else. But we suspend that disbelief in order to enjoy the show. Yes, the writers write things for their own purpose and to move the show along, but as viewers, we sort of expect things on the show to make sense because of things on the show, not because it makes sense in the writers' world.
These last three episodes are a good example of this. AMC ordered 13 episodes for Season 3, but upped it to 16 because of good ratings. The writers already knew what they wanted to do in their 13 episodes, but now there were an extra three episodes to fill. So we got three bottle episodes that didn't move the story at all. The first, with Morgan, happened to be very good. The last two were pretty bad. I understand why it happened. I understand how it happened. But that doesn't mean I don't want stuff on the show itself to make sense, just because it is convenient for the writers.
And it is an in-your-face kind of sloppiness. Unrealistic decisions, unrealistic behavior, ham-fisted attempts to create tension — they are non-stop, and are so blatant, that it becomes impossible to look past them. It is almost like in Independence Day, where Jeff Goldblum’s character infects an alien ship with a computer virus, which was so laughable that it became the lasting memory of the movie. But here, it isn’t just one scene, it is the constant.
Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if TWD devolves quickly after this season, and becomes a snooze-fest soap opera punctuated by video game action series.
Me, neither. Some of it can get downright comical. I saw a post on a Walking Dead forum that said, "It still hasn't rained on this show! WHEN IS IT GOING TO RAIN?"
LOL
We do know that Milton knew the governor before the ZA, so who knows, they could be related in some way. There’s some kind of connection there.
I agree with you that Milton will be the one to find Andrea, and once he’s freed her, Philip’s going to find him and slap him in the chair.
That didn't bother me. Glen Mazzara said they wanted to do one true horror-flick chase segment; they did, and IMO it worked. It kept me from breathing for several minutes, that's for sure.
Yes... Agreed. I thought the chase sequence with Andrea was very well done. The gal that plays Andrea was on Talking Dead and had some good comments about that sequence and how they set that up.
Yes, I saw that. BTW, the actor who plays the governor will be on Talking Dead this Sunday.
I was wondering how others saw that episode. For me, it fell flat, but it is good to know that others enjoyed it. Part of my problem with it was that I couldn’t really care about Andrea. The other problem was that there was no real chance that either would get killed at that point. Then again, I am much more of a fan of the kind of horror in “Silence of the Lambs”, than I am in slasher movies. Ironically, I didn’t feel that this episode was poorly written, just that I found it boring and somewhat predictable.
I’m not an Andrea fan, either. But I have to admit, when I thought she had made it to the prison, I almost got choked up, LOL.
It’s as though the writers are trying to rehabilitate her character, which is what they did to Lori right before they iced her.
I’m just saying, I don’t care what happens to Andrea. She created the situation she now finds herself in.
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