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Democracies are peaceful, when the people want peace. They respect liberties only when they have constitutions and cultures that allow for this. We need to stop helping Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood based on a misunderstanding of democracy.

1 posted on 03/16/2013 2:11:08 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew

I believe the author is more accurately disparaging mob rule.
As P.J. O’Rourke once said, in a true democracy, every pair of pants would be acid-washed jeans, and every meal a pizza.


2 posted on 03/16/2013 2:15:39 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Communist Manifesto again:
We have seen above that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class; to win the battle of democracy.
Even though Marx and Engels were famous for their advocation of violent revolution, they knew there were other “paths” for their ideology to take in order to seize power.
3 posted on 03/16/2013 2:16:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: rmlew
Democracies are peaceful, when the people want peace. ...Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood...

Moslems are not interested in peace, but rather world domination. The only kind of government suitable for them, regardless of structure, is a demilitarized one.

The rogue elements need to be carefully observed and occasionally "demotivated".

4 posted on 03/16/2013 2:20:01 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: rmlew
The founders of this country viewed democracy as the anathema to freedom.

That is why this country is theoretically a representative republic.

5 posted on 03/16/2013 2:30:41 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: rmlew

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.


6 posted on 03/16/2013 2:33:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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“If we had looked instead at a poll which showed that 4 out of 5 Egyptians believe that adulterers should be stoned and thieves should have their hands cut off, we would have known how this democracy experiment was going to end and how much damage it would do to our national interests.”

I can’t say I remember that, but I DEFINITELY DO REMEMBER the polls that said the Brotherhood would walk away with any election and would turn Egypt into another Iran. It wasn’t even close. Egypt was SEETHING, ready to become the next Islamic state in the Middle East, with only Sadat and then Mubarak stopping that. It WAS NOT a state secret - if this little twerp blogger from Texas knew what was in store, then Hillary certainly did too.

I remember getting angry at reading something in a geography book (during junior high, I think) that said some countries simply aren’t ready for democracy - I was wrong (then), and they were right. Unfortunately Democrat leaders and most Republican leaders are still stuck in that classroom, thinking as I did. You’d think they could learn, if not from the Palestinians, then from Iraq, or Afghanistan. Or maybe...more likely...this has ALWAYS been their objectives.


9 posted on 03/16/2013 2:58:43 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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I look at Obama and Biden and Reid and Pelosi and I don’t see hearts beating for Democracy. I see hands itching for money. We’re never going to get anywhere if we keep attributing noble thoughts to this bunch of thieves. They are out to make money for themselves and their buddies. Is there anyone, anyone who thinks these thieves helped kill Qaddafi because they wanted a Democratic Libya? Does anyone here think the Democrats are killing the Syrian Soldiers because the Democrats think that will bring Democracy to Syria? It’s all about money.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rmlew

Corrupt Representation has brought
us to a state of “Dumbacracity.”

Dictators know how to do this.

I am claiming the phrase as my own.


12 posted on 03/16/2013 3:43:12 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: rmlew

I meant “ Dumbacrisy”

Always looking for talking points.


13 posted on 03/16/2013 3:47:19 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: rmlew
We are taught early on in our schooling that Democracy is virtuous; an idealogical darling of the leftist-educational complex. What is never mentioned is the fact that the more democracy we have the less personal liberty we retain. (Is that omission itentional or a failing?)

There is no drought of historical lessons showing that this is true, but leftists never learn from history. I think all egalitarian movements entail collective illusions of its adherents and proponents, and it ensues from deception and naturally glides inevitably toward totalitarianism. Again- history teaches it. It's good to see someone setting the record straight on Democracy and let's hope we see it hammered on more and more.

14 posted on 03/16/2013 4:16:19 PM PDT by Dysart
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Freedom is the goal, and democracy merely a means of trying to attain it. Democracy without respect for the rights of the individual does not advance the cause of freedom. Whatever their form, governments that don’t secure “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” are oppressive.

I do believe, though — along with the writers of the Declaration of Independence — that governments derive “their just powers from the consent of the governed”. I won’t deny that in general dictatorships that rule in opposition to the will of the people are an evil.

In some instances, though, democracies impose a harmful tyranny of the majority that can be even more oppressive. At some times and places we have to face the fact that both of the given alternatives are bad, and choose the lesser of two evils. Democracies (including representative democracies, republics such as our own) aren’t foolproof.


15 posted on 03/16/2013 4:28:25 PM PDT by GJones2 (Freedom is the goal, democracy merely a means of attaining it)
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28 posted on 03/17/2013 4:55:09 AM PDT by expat1000
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The argument that democracy had made the Muslim world dysfunctional was always chancy. The best counterargument to it was that second and third-generation Muslims in Europe were often more radical than their immigrant parents. If democracy were a cure for Islamism, it was working very poorly in London, Oslo and Paris.

Doesn't say much for diversity does it?

30 posted on 03/17/2013 7:32:01 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (And winter is coming.)
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To: rmlew

Democracies are bad things.
Democracy is the rule of the mob and the howling of envious and power-hungry demagogues. They are not peaceful or well governed.
Only the buffer of a Republic has allowed the United States as long as it has, and the deeper we sink into “Democracy” the closer we come to the end.


38 posted on 03/17/2013 5:12:49 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: rmlew

The main take-away is that democracy as a pure value can be quite destructive if exported without all the trimmings and qualifications our system placed upon it.

In fact, our Founders correctly recognized that unbridled democracy would destroy our republic. And to the extent that the low-information voters have as much say in elections as conscientious, taxpaying citizens with a stake in ownership of our land and responsibility for the maintenance of what they own, it’s undeniably true.


48 posted on 03/23/2013 1:47:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberalism: knowing you're better than everyone else because of your humility. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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