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To: certrtwngnut

I don’t think denying communion is the same as excommunication. Correct me if I’m wrong.


48 posted on 03/13/2013 3:17:15 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

I do not think that someone who has been excommunicated can receive communion as they are no longer recognized by the Catholic Church.


52 posted on 03/13/2013 3:22:30 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: fwdude

No. They are not the same. Denying communion can be done by any priest. Excommunication has to be done by the Pope I believe, often recommended by a cardinal. Excommunication is a statement of rejection by the Pope. He declares you as ‘shut out’ from the church. I hope Piglosi and Biden are excommunication.


71 posted on 03/13/2013 5:29:36 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: fwdude
I don’t think denying communion is the same as excommunication. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Wow, you sure are pushing my theology knowledge tonight. Lol. If you are denied communion in the Church it is because you are in a state of mortal sin. Many of these so-called Catholic politicians support pro-abortion policies, so a bishop like Joe Biden's bishop (btw this actually happened) will tell the archdiocese to refuse Biden communion because he supports policies that are directly opposed to the Catholic faith. Excommunication is done by the Pope and casts someone out of the Church, although this is rarely done. There is also another form of excommunication called "self excommunication," which is done when a Catholic fully and knowingly rebukes the teachings of the Catholic Church. I think one of the reasons why excommunication isn't practiced more is because a pol like a Biden or Pelosi could have a change of heart,maybe a conversion, decry the policies they once supported and support Christ with a sincere heart. Although, I highly doubt the just mentioned scenario would happen, but it has happened in the past with some Church figures such as Augustine, so it can't entirely be ruled out. I also think the Church doesn't practice excommunication as much because of the tax exempt status it has that is granted by politicans, which is a shame that some of these Church leaders let that drive their policies. I personally wish that excommunication would be done more in the Church especially in the cases of someone like Pelosi - they give Catholics a bad name and lead other Catholics to believe they can do whatever they want when it comes to Church doctrine. Jmo, hope this helps.

111 posted on 03/14/2013 7:43:07 PM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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