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New Pope: No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians
breitbart.com ^ | March 13 2013 | staff

Posted on 03/13/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

New Pope Francis I is a conservative in the mold of his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II. That’s especially true on the issue of abortion, which he called a “death sentence” for the unborn in 2007. “We aren’t in agreement with the death penalty,” he said during that speech, “but in Argentina we have the death penalty. A child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death.”

In his writings, Francis wrote, “we should commit ourselves to ‘eucharistic coherence,’ that is, we should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortions, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals.”

Francis is also anti-euthanasia: “Today,” he wrote, “elderly people are discarded when, in reality, they are the seat of wisdom of the society. The right to life means allowing people to live and not killing, allowing them to grow, to eat, to be educated, to be healed, and to be permitted to die with dignity.”

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KEYWORDS: catholicpoliticians; conclave; popefrancis; prolifepope; romancatholicism
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To: manc

So true...all about the scandal, none about the good works done in places like Haiti, slums, crisis pregnancies, etc.
We are a retired Navy family and know Jax, Mayport and St. Augustine well. Beautiful part of the country, hubs is a big golfer, his best bud is the XO of NS Mayport. Wonderful place to live, congrats!
Not too long ago, some guy was in our little parish church in Suffolk, VA wearing a shirt that had on the back: “You can’t be a Democrat and a Catholic at the same time”. Pretty neat and gutsy!
Cheers....


101 posted on 03/14/2013 7:50:22 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: manc

I bet the popular PA/DE Biden ignores the new pope on that point.


102 posted on 03/14/2013 8:20:05 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Outstanding! Time to let the likes of John “Live Shot” Kerry and Bella Pelosi know that Catholicism isn’t a “pick and choose” proposition and that the “pick and choose” folks are at the Unitarian/Universalist (or “Reform” Judaism) joint down the street.


103 posted on 03/14/2013 9:25:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Biden, the apostate, will be representing the US at the official Mass for the Pope. This is , as usual, a big mistake and a poke in the eye of the RC and all Christians. Boehner is a real practicing RC and should be sent instead of Biden.


104 posted on 03/14/2013 10:42:19 AM PDT by Fred (http://thebubblefilm.com/)
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To: matginzac

well sawgrass is one of the best places to play golf for him \and I love this republcian conservative county St Johns county


105 posted on 03/14/2013 11:01:06 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

He’s played it many times - it’s where the XO lives - and good for St. John’s. Too bad greater Jax is so sad in their elected officials....


106 posted on 03/14/2013 11:47:05 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: EDINVA
[He bears some physical resemblance to Rudy Giuliani]

He sure does! Yesterday I didn't notice things like that. Someone else posted a Star Wars character that bore a resemblance too.

107 posted on 03/14/2013 6:01:57 PM PDT by potlatch (~be content with small victories and simple pleasures~)
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To: Wanderer99

even more than it’s always been.


108 posted on 03/14/2013 7:16:47 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: fwdude
Can a pro-abortion “catholic” just go to confession before mass and “get right” long enough to take communion, and then go about their baby killing afterward?

No, if a confessor is not sincere about the error they made in sin, especially a serious sin, such as abortion it would not count as a valid confession. So, a women just can't go out get an abortion and plan on going to confession to get their sin struck from the record, unless they are truly sorry for their actions, and make amends not to do it again. Of course, there are many cafeteria Catholics that just pick and choose what they want to believe and don't even think twice about the impact that supporting abortion or homosexuality has on their soul. They think these things are ok so confession is not needed for them concerning these matters. Reconciliation, is an ongoing process in the CC, serious Catholics try to make a sincere effort to walk in the light, we stumble, but we continue to try to conquer our sin to get closer to God. Attempting to fool God in reconciliation will not achieve salvation and practicing Catholics know that.

109 posted on 03/14/2013 7:20:43 PM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: chooseascreennamepat

“Why limit to politicians? Anyone who approves of killing babies needs the wrath of God.”

His comment don’t limited at all, but put emphasis on those with the most influence on and control over others. From the article above: “We should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortions, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals.”


110 posted on 03/14/2013 7:26:23 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: fwdude
I don’t think denying communion is the same as excommunication. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Wow, you sure are pushing my theology knowledge tonight. Lol. If you are denied communion in the Church it is because you are in a state of mortal sin. Many of these so-called Catholic politicians support pro-abortion policies, so a bishop like Joe Biden's bishop (btw this actually happened) will tell the archdiocese to refuse Biden communion because he supports policies that are directly opposed to the Catholic faith. Excommunication is done by the Pope and casts someone out of the Church, although this is rarely done. There is also another form of excommunication called "self excommunication," which is done when a Catholic fully and knowingly rebukes the teachings of the Catholic Church. I think one of the reasons why excommunication isn't practiced more is because a pol like a Biden or Pelosi could have a change of heart,maybe a conversion, decry the policies they once supported and support Christ with a sincere heart. Although, I highly doubt the just mentioned scenario would happen, but it has happened in the past with some Church figures such as Augustine, so it can't entirely be ruled out. I also think the Church doesn't practice excommunication as much because of the tax exempt status it has that is granted by politicans, which is a shame that some of these Church leaders let that drive their policies. I personally wish that excommunication would be done more in the Church especially in the cases of someone like Pelosi - they give Catholics a bad name and lead other Catholics to believe they can do whatever they want when it comes to Church doctrine. Jmo, hope this helps.

111 posted on 03/14/2013 7:43:07 PM PDT by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: murron
Saying it is one thing. He needs to give the orders to all the bishops around the world to not give Communion to those who are proponents of abortion and euthanasia.

Now he needs to cast out all the packer priests.

112 posted on 03/15/2013 4:46:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: manc
brilliant, I;m not Catholic but very happy to have seen this and know he stands for his religious beleifs.

I was born and raised Catholic and married in the Catholic church to my wife of nearly 27 years. We left the church over many disagreements with it, one of which happens to be the serving of the Eucharist to those who publicly work against the church and it's beliefs. Yes, that means the ilk of the Kennedy family and those who've been able to "buy" their way around the church's teachings on abortion, divorce, infidelity, etc..

So I personally am ECSTATIC at the stands this Pope is taking. Yes, we former Catholics do still pay attention to what the Church Leadership (including the Pope) does. I truly hope Pope Francis is a reformer.

113 posted on 03/15/2013 4:54:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: All

This is such uplifting news.


114 posted on 03/17/2013 10:23:18 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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