Posted on 03/13/2013 12:29:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
BACKGROUND:
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ (born December 17, 1936) is the current pope of the Roman Catholic Church, elected on March 13, 2013, and taking the regnal name of Francis I. Prior to his election, he served as an Argentine cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church. He has served as the Archbishop of Buenos Aires since 1998. He was elevated to the cardinalate in 2001. He was elevated to Pope in March 2013.
Jorge Bergoglio was born in Buenos Aires, one of the five children of an Italian railway worker and his wife. After studying at the seminary in Villa Devoto, he entered the Society of Jesus on March 11, 1958. Bergoglio obtained a licentiate in philosophy from the Colegio Máximo San José in San Miguel, and then taught literature and psychology at the Colegio de la Inmaculada in Santa Fe, and the Colegio del Salvador in Buenos Aires. He was ordained to the priesthood on December 13, 1969, by Archbishop Ramón José Castellano. He attended the Philosophical and Theological Faculty of San Miguel, a seminary in San Miguel. Bergoglio attained the position of novice master there and became professor of theology.
Impressed with his leadership skills, the Society of Jesus promoted Bergoglio and he served as provincial for Argentina from 1973 to 1979. He was transferred in 1980 to become the rector of the seminary in San Miguel where had had studied. He served in that capacity until 1986. He completed his doctoral dissertation in Germany and returned to his homeland to serve as confessor and spiritual director in Córdoba.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states its opposition to both marxism/socialism and laissez-faire capitalism. Which IMHO is correct. Unregulated capitalism is just as unworkable as communism/socialism. Basically the RCC position is that you are entitled to the fruits of your labor, but must recognize that the common good has an interest too.
I don't know if this is the correct answer, but I'm presuming he's called Francis I in order to let us know that there hasn't been a Pope Francis yet. Everyone would have wondered which number Francis he is, so it's been clarified right from the start.
ROTFLAO !!!!!!
Just a few “Protestant Observations”
First, congratulations to all my Catholic Brothers and Sisters on your new Pope. While I’m not a Catholic, Its very important to me not to divide the Body of Christ (as I’ve said before, we’re going to spend eternity together, which is plenty of time for Jesus to sort out sprinkling vs. total immersion), and its important to all Christians everywhere that visable Christian leaders be effective and sterling representitives of Christ. I wish him well.
Second, there seems to be a lot to like about this guy. If there is one trait that we desperately need more of from ministers in the public eye, it is humility, and this man seems to have that. I have to admit I cringe a little at the phrase “Social Justice” because it usually means “Government Program”....but at least from the little I have read so far, this man tends to see it in terms of Social Christian outreach and involvement, which is absolutely in line with Biblical principles of taking personal responsibility to reach out to the poor and infirm. I hope the reputation that preceeds him in this respect continues and expands.
Finally, an observation on the matter of his age. While at first glance it might be a temptation to say “why not pick a younger guy”, that is a double edged sword. While a longer term leader would give more stability in the position, if you pick a younger guy, and he turns out to be the “progressive reformer” type, you may be stuck with him for 30 years....this way you avoid that situation, and even if you get someone who tries to radically change things, you have a sooner chance to make corrections if needed.
Again, congrats to the Catholics on this important day for you, and God’s blessings on all of you and the new Pope.
Well, thank you. Though, I’m not feeling like a kid.
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RE: Umm, he’s Pope Francis, not Pope Frances.
I’m quite certain that his original self-designation was the Italian — FRANCESCO.
We call that Francis in English.
The French call it Francois.
The Albanian call it Franescu (so do the Corsicans ).
Croatians call it Franjo
The Dutch use the name Frans
The Germans, Franziskus
The Japanese, Furanshisu
The Poles, Franciszek
The Latin name is Franciscus
The Spanish and Portuguese speakers everywhere use the name — Francisco. This is what he will be known as in South America.
PAPA FRANCISCO UNO.
Well that anonymous cardinal gave a vow never to reveal the results of the election. He excommunicated himself if he did so.
Actually,it's a biblical tradition. God changed the name of all people he assigned special mission to, such as Abraham. Jesus, also changed the name of several of his disciples upon assigning them missions, such as St. Peter and St. Paul. It gave way to the tradition of Popes to change their name when they are elected as a successor to Peter.
If you ever want to piss off an Argentine, there are several rude words that translate as "black", "Indian", or "Bolivian" that will do the trick.
Other Latin American countries find the Argies rather full of themselves, and love to poke fun at their haughty self-image as a nation of white Europeans.
RE: PAPA FRANCISCO UNO
I stand corrected, my Hispanic friends just told me they call him PAPA FRANCISO PRIMERO.
And apparently according to this site:
http://www.tarapacaonline.cl/?p=24150
He chose the name Francisco in honor of St. Francis of Assisi.
EXCERPT ( In Spanish ):
Primera vez que el Papa es de otro continente, Jorge Mario Bergoglio nacido en Argentina, de la orden de la Compañía de Jesús es el nuevo sumo pontífice de la Iglesia Católica. En honor a San Francisco de Asís, se llamará Francisco Primero.
Yeah both his parents were Italian Immigrants. Dad: Mario Jose Bergoglio and Mom: Regina Maria Sivori. You can't get anymore Italian then those names. lol! He was born in Argentina but is of first generation Italian lineage. So you're somewhat correct, he is a Latin American Pope of Italian ancestry but technically if you look at it he is still of the same European lineages that all other Popes before him were, which is why I kind of find it funny how the media is trying to portray him as "none European" when he is of European ancestry and we aren't even talking like 2nd or 3rd or 4th or 5th or 6th etc generations in Latin America, his parents were FRESH OF THE BOAT Italian Immigrants. lol!
Yeah this guy is not what we would be led to believe...
How in the hell can the Catholic Church elect a shepherd that only brings 20 percent of his flock to mass? When his fields are 92percent baptized in the faith?
On those numbers alone he is not a papa of evangelical means....
Please watch your language.
The original designation was in Latin, Franciscus, as that’s the language used in the announcement:
“The cardinal proto-deacon of the Catholic Church, Jean Louis-Taran, announced the news to those gathered in St. Peter’s Square, with the traditional words:
Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum: Habemus Papam.
Eminentissimum ac reverendissimum Dominum, Dominum Georgium Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae Cardinalem Bergoglium.
Qui sibi nomen imposuit Franciscum.
Translated:
I announce to you a great joy: We have a pope:
The most eminent and honorable lord, Lord Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio of the Holy Roman Church,
Who has taken for himself the name Francis.”
In South America, at least in the Spanish-speaking countries of that continent, he is known as Francisco Primero. (Remember, he is Francis the First, not Francis One.)
My comment about his name being “Francis, not Frances,” was a tongue-in-cheek response to a poster who described him (due to a typo, I assume) as “the first Latina pope.”
Used in this context it’s appropriate.
No, it isn’t.
Trisham, I am a devout catholic and one that practices my faith regularly.
One can invoke hell in that tone when adressing a religious matter such as the election of our Papa.
Sorry the word irritates you but my context and use is in my opinion quite appropriate.
No, it isn’t.
Just saw this; I should have read all my pings before replying to your earlier post.
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