Posted on 03/13/2013 5:30:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
As we pondered this question, we also wanted to know when and where the two groups intersected. We started with an informal survey. We asked several people the following question: when do you think the Tea Party movement began? They answered: when Rick Santelli ranted on the floor of the Merc in Chicago in February, 2009.
But our research into the history of the Tea Party took us back to 2004, to its first inklings as an organized force for rousing ordinary citizens to fight back against big government. In that year, Libertarian David Koch founded Americans for Prosperity, a nonprofit political advocacy group set up to educate the public on the principles of free markets.
Even though the term "Tea Party" was not used then, Koch's vision of "a mass movement, a state-based one, but national in scope, of hundreds of thousands of American citizens from all walks of life standing up and fighting for the economic freedoms" pretty much describes the movement we see today.
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Are you talking the LP or libertarians? There is a HUGE difference.
There is NO difference.
Scratch a libertarian, and you find someone who wants no restrictions whatsoever on porn, dope and very, very creepy sex. That was not what our Founders had in mind, and not the kind of worldview that.I want anywhere near me - even tbough.I live in NYC and am far from being a prude.
Guess what, I don’t endorse gay marriage, pedophilia, or the wholesale dissemination of dope without restrictions. So if someone is breeding children for the purpose of sex traffick and pornography, and selling crack on the side- yes, I have a problem with that, and no, I don’t want it left alone.
>>Guess what, I dont endorse gay marriage, pedophilia, or the wholesale dissemination of dope without restrictions. So if someone is breeding children for the purpose of sex traffick and pornography, and selling crack on the side- yes, I have a problem with that, and no, I dont want it left alone.<<
well, the good news is you are only 50% wrong.
OTOH, you are 100% wrong in reading what I posted.
So I score you net 75% wrong (I used easy math for ya)
>>Scratch a libertarian, and you find someone who wants no restrictions whatsoever on porn, dope and very, very creepy sex.<<
Scratch a generalist and you will find a strawman “argument.”
A govt cant make people moral, but cant they encourage it?
No, over the years I’ve met a lot of libertarians. Amoral dissememblers to a man
Exactly - government can't make a people moral.
A govt cant make people moral, but cant they encourage it?
Encouragement doesn't happen at the point of a gun or through the bars of a cell. I'm all for encouragement of morality - but I'm skeptical that government is the right entity for the job.
Encouragement, like allowing children to pray in school, and at football games.
That's not encouragement but an absence of coercive discouragement. I'm all for it.
Like acknowledging the same God that we acknowledge in our Constitution
What form would you like to see such acknowledgment take?
I too have noticed many strange postings that were not common on FR before. It is all about through everything against the wall and see if it sticks. This is the same social anarchy that you see on the left. Libertarians care about the ecomony but they don’t seem to get anything else.
Where are all these pro-gay marriage, pro drug legalization, get government out of marriage people coming from? They are like little kids who think they can change the world from scratch. Who do they think they are? Sound more like Paris in the 1790’s then the USA of
Washington, Jefferson etc. The United States survived because we didn’t have a bunch of crazy radicals running our revolution. Unlike the French Revolution, the American Revolution respected God.
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