Posted on 03/11/2013 7:29:01 AM PDT by bryan999
WARREN, Ohio (AP) — A speeding sport utility vehicle taken without permission and carrying eight teenagers crashed into a guardrail Sunday morning and flipped over into a swampy pond in northeast Ohio, killing five boys and the young woman driving, the state highway patrol said.
The Honda Passport veered off the left side of a road and overturned just south of the city of Warren, about 60 miles east of Cleveland, Lt. Anne Ralston said. Investigators say it came to rest upside down in the swamp and sank with five of the victims trapped inside. A sixth, who was thrown from the SUV during the crash, was found under it when the vehicle was taken out of the water.
The two boys who survived escaped from the submerged vehicle and ran a quarter-mile to a home to call 911, the highway patrol said.
State Highway Patrol Lt. Brian Holt said at an evening news conference that speed was a factor, although investigators were still trying to determine the speed at the time of the accident.
"We will not be speculating on alcohol and-or drug usage pending toxicology reports," Holt said.
No one in the vehicle had permission to take it, but there were no theft reports, Holt said. The vehicle was licensed to a resident of Youngstown, about 20 miles away, he said.
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Or was it stolen?
The car veered off the road and overturned, probably wasn't doing 25 in a 45 zone. Sometimes it's pretty easy to tell when speed was a factor.
I agree. However, even if you bump a tree at 25 mph.. you can be issued a citation of “failure to control speed to avoid a collision. Therefore, speed is always a factor.
Ummm....there is permission and curfews AND then there is ignoring said permissions and curfews. Kids do crazy things, they sneak out, they “borrow” vehicles not their own, they rebel.
It’s great that you were a perfect kid, but some are not.
BTW, I was NOT one to ignore authority, but knew some that did. Sometimes the home life NEEDS to be escaped from.
Teenage drivers lack experience in driving and saying “no”;the more teenagers in the vehicle the more likely some stupid dare will be made.
Three young Future Farmers of America are dead in Ripley county ,Indiana last week ,and their three friends hurt because the two teenage boys driving pickups raced each other on converging roads and apparently both ran stop signs at an intersection crashing together.
Generally people don’t refer to it as stealing when the unauthorized driver is a family member or close friend whi is expected ,and does himself intend ,to return the vehicle after a quick trip to the store or nearby destination.
That is where the police dispatcher use the phrase “investigate for unauthorized control, a 2008 Chevry Tahoe ,blue in color, believed occupied by .....Stop and Hold,authority Local PD.”
Reporting your vehicle driven off by your teenager as stolen pushes the response up a whole other level;if you really want your teenager in jail then call it stolen.If you want to discipline him(her) at home, you report “driven without permission” and hope there are no crashes.
Good Lord,I believe some people would actually endorse the stoning to death of disrespectful sons .If your only tool is instilling overpowering fear of great punishment then your the problem,not the solution.
Kids are only kids based on where the parents draw the line. The kids may from time to time go over that line, but in this case, the line should have been drawn much sooner. If I’d have taken my parents car, I should have just as well killed myself, since the result would have been the same - death.
I did instruct my kids that they were not to carry more than one passenger. I think there is (IIRC) a Georgia law to the same effect for 16-17 year olds.
But this could well be a case of a bunch of boys thinking it was cool to disobey parents, sneak out after curfew, and go joyriding with a wild girl. Sort of case I would clip out of the newspaper and hand to my kids with the observation that things don't always work out the way you intend . . . .
Fortunately, my kids never got anything worse than a traffic ticket and a stern talking-to by the judge. But I do not tell them about some of my escapades . . . which fortunately never resulted in any injuries or damage to persons or property. But that was just good luck (and I was not a particularly wild kid).
STOLEN does make all the difference.
I do believe stealing has been treated much too lightly these past decades while the cops seek glamour in drug raids and DUI roadblocks.
There is still that dare and show-off mentality all teens must learn to be wary of.
Update: state police say the two drivers and trucks left seperately with no knowledge ofthe other;so it begins to look like running the stop signs ,and maybe speed, caused the crash.But not actual race against each other.
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