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To: SoConPubbie; VinL; ex-snook; sport; INVAR; ejonesie22; PieterCasparzen; Colonel_Flagg; Washi; ...

The Real Rand Paul ping!


2 posted on 03/10/2013 7:01:31 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Is there a link to the column the article refers to?


3 posted on 03/10/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The one important thing missing from the piece is a link to Rand Paul’s Washington Times piece. So, here it is: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/8/sen-rand-paul-trust-verify-immigration-reform/

This is probably Paul’s weakest area. I completely agree with him on the vast majority of issues and vehemently oppose him on a few.

You may not agree with all parts of his plan but at least he has one that secures the border, creates a visa tracking system and places illegals at the back of the line (all good things). No mass deportations is missing as is giving legal work status to illegals and this is where I completely disagree with him.

So, there you have the real and Paul. Have any other GOP presidential hopefuls put forth a plan that goes beyond this? It’s not a rhetorical question, I am genuinely interested in knowing.


4 posted on 03/10/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by FerociousRabbit
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To: SoConPubbie

The left has successfully linked and conditioned enforcement of law to the adoption of their agenda. Until their agenda is adopted chaos will ensue and any & all steps to promote chaos will be taken.

Witness the federal suits against Arizona. Witness federal refusal by ICE to accept aliens arrested by local law enforcement. Witness federal release of 1000’s of aliens. All to promote chaos.

These people are vicious subversive vile traitors.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 7:24:19 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: SoConPubbie

Never mind. I found it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/8/sen-rand-paul-trust-verify-immigration-reform/

I am in favor of immigration reform. I am also wary of reforms granted now for a promise of border security later. In 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a deal that made just such a promise, yet we are still waiting for the border security that never came. Conservatives are also still waiting for the promised three dollars in spending cuts for every dollar in tax hikes. Fool me once … So, it is understandable conservatives should insist that any immigration reform incorporate the principle of trust but verify.

In that vein, I approach these efforts in good faith. I will advance both immigration reform and verifiable border security. Under my plan for comprehensive reform the US would begin with prioritizing Visas for immigrants with advanced degrees, the so-called STEM Visas and an immediate expansion of the work Visa program. These reforms would happen immediately.

But, as a matter of both national security and immigration policy, it is absolutely essential that we both secure our border and modernize our visa system so we know who comes and who goes on travel, student and other temporary visas. And it is vital all other reforms be conditioned on this goal being met.

Border Security, including drones, satellite, and physical barriers, vigilant deportation of criminals and increased patrols would begin immediately and be assessed at the end of one year by an investigator general from the General Accountability Office. Most importantly, and in contrast with any other plan out there, my plan will insist that report be presented to Congress for a vote. If, and only if Congress agreed that border security was progressing, then more reforms would ensue. If we can’t secure our border, and if we cannot prove we can modernize our system of issuing and tracking visas, we cannot take on the task of adding more people to our system.

More at link.


17 posted on 03/10/2013 7:36:15 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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Not what I want...I want the laws enforced, including deportation...Paul is softer, but he’s as good as anyone else out there in office at this time. As he states..., we already have defacto amnesty, because few of them, including criminals are being deported. We’re going to have amnesty shoved down our throats. I think I’d rather have Paul in charge of it than anyone else, because he’d work to cut off the magnets. He is very naive about aliens paying taxes, since half of them are on welfare.

What do you all think?


33 posted on 03/10/2013 8:24:47 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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