Posted on 03/07/2013 3:11:25 PM PST by SMGFan
It’s an education bombshell.
Nearly 80 percent of New York City high school graduates need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system.
The number of kids behind the 8-ball is the highest in years, CBS 2′s Marcia Kramer reported Thursday.
When they graduated from city high schools, students in a special remedial program at the Borough of Manhattan Community College couldn’t make the grade.
They had to re-learn basic skills — reading, writing and math — first before they could begin college courses.
(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...
“According to the chart on page 5, 14.3% of the total students are White, apparently not hispanic, yet according to a census report for 2011 for NYC White non- hispanic, is 58%....where have all the childern gone?”
I’ll take a -guess- that the “14.3%” represents white kids in -public- schools.
I’ll also guess that as many, or more (perhaps most), are enrolled in private schools not a part of this survey.
You may have identified the reason the numbers are so far apart.
Liberals NEVER acknowledge failure; smiley faces for everyone’s grades without the stigma of merit.
Reading is for the white man, it ain’t Keepin’ it real.
“Makes you wonder how they can read to vote.”
C’mon, even dead people can read well enough to vote Dem.
Amazing. But not really. A highschool teacher in Florida that I knew was afraid to actually push the kids to learn because the parents would file racial discrimination suits against him. Most of the kids in that HS were Blacks, and also pretty well-heeled. It was anything but a slum.
Lol....no sarc tag needed there.
Very informative link, deport. Interesting that the bottom category on the birthplace list is “country unknown.” No doubt for kids of illegals and terrorists.
Sure they do. Another couple billion bucks and they can get it up to 90% who can't read.
Looking at their policies, I surely suspect that illiteracy is their primary objective, they just need more money to reach it.
Are you buddies with humblegunner?
A good chunk of the kids are in Catholic schools. Many of that 58% are still single, not native New Yawkers from overseas and around the country, especially queers.
I was born in NYC and grew up here. Almost all of my friends who got married and had kids moved to the suburbs.
Amen. It is deliberate.
You're welcome.
It is not true that teachers cannot be fired; unions simply ensure that they have a right to due process.
There is NO evidence that charter schools get better results than public schools. It is also true that charter schools quietly toss students who are lowering the school's stats out the back door, back to public school.
Teachers have to undergo rigorous tests in order to qualify in their specialty, Mr. Know-it-all. Those tests are rather challenging. I borrowed a friend's Kaplan prep books for the Medcats and found them to be well-attuned to the level of the teacher specialty exams I had to take for my field. Out of a possible 300, I scored 285. Soooo dumb. Easy to dish it out, eh moron?
As a matter of fact, Pharmie-la, teachers have fought hard over the years for things that would help their students learn. We, after all, are the people in the classroom with the kids. We know them. We care about them. We know their life stories. We know what kinds of lessons they enjoy, and what kinds of lessons would probably turn them off. Not the politicians looking for some cheap political points. Not the zillionaires looking to keep the training of the next generation within the hands of a very few, so that they will have the future of the nation in their liberal and uninformed hands. And certainly not people living in their mother's basement surrounded by used candy wrappers (and worse) like you.
The next time Mom lets you use the computer, you should make sure of your facts before you pop off at people who know more about their subject than you do. You are SO pathetically dumb and rude.
A good chunk of the kids are in Catholic schools. Many of that 58% are still single, not native New Yawkers from overseas and around the country, especially queers.
I was born in NYC and grew up here. Almost all of my friends who got married and had kids moved to the suburbs.
He and I share similar views on a number of topics as well as a number of members of FR, why do you ask?
Here are the deceptions: First City College or CUNY is a system of colleges designed to provide higher education to the residents of New York city, but open to everyone. It is a broad spectrum of schools some of which are top notch, some are more like 4 year community colleges. Tuition is low (aprox $6,000/year) and acceptance is high, although can be selective at the better schools.
The remediation program itself is a money maker for the educators. They have every motivation to put students through it and it is practically a required course. My child who graduated the NY school system with honors was accepted into an honors program at one of the more exclusive CUNY schools. He was informed that first semester would be remedial classes if he attended. He was also accepted at other top notch schools (without any such requirement). He did not choose to attend the CUNY system and for the record made the Dean's list his first semester at a much more challenging school without remediation.
Although Public Schools in this country are doing a poor job in general of educating our children, I do not believe NY is worse than many other areas of the country.
The NYC public schools mirror the dogma put forth by the “Frankfurt School”, a.k.a. “cultural Marxism”, that emigrated to Columbia University, co-opted the “Progressive” philosophy of John Dewey, and is ensconced in the Teachers College...
Here’s the model: A really big system with huge overhead; a heavily unionized, hierarchal command structure; leftist, one-party political control rife with patronage; numerous racial preferences for minorities; emphasis on “social justice”, Multi-culturalism, and “political correctness” over academic achievement; massive budget; flight to private and parochial schools by those who can afford to do it.
Central planning and one-party rule have historically predictable results: failure. The NYC system is the epicenter of the educational philosophy that infects our urban schools and threatens all of public education. Is it a coincidence that New Left thugs like Bill Ayers and his wife ‘Medusa’ Dohrn, have embedded themselves in teacher training?
The sad fact is that this model remains in place in nearly all of our major urban centers that vote blue: NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, D.C., L.A. San Francisco, Detroit, Cleveland, and of course, maybe worst of all, Chicago. NYC’s dismal results are probably not even the worst among these.
Failure to serve these young people is just so incredibly sad to me. Insuring illiteracy and ignorance is akin to slavery, in fact, it IS slavery. These statistics are a moral outrage; a willingness to keep millions of American kids in bondage.
Mayor Bloomberg, your obsession with controlling the minutia of personal life; your strident finger-wagging about salt and soda and ear buds, is the conduct of a Mad Hatter. Look what your arrogance has wrought. What a disgrace!
Once again the racial demographics tell a large part of the story but we continue to pretend it isn’t so and yet just can’t seem to figure it out. The ‘racial gap’ persist...
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