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To: butterdezillion

Nice deconstruction.

BTW, I just want to keep emphasizing that no matter how they package her-—she does not and never will earn Americans’ admiration and respect.


75 posted on 03/04/2013 7:36:57 AM PST by Liz
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Demonrats are giddy with success. Ohaha sees himself----and his secular/welfare/socialist/union coalition----dominating public life. But tyranny and grandiosity have a very short shelf life.....as history shows.

The self-serving progs live in a dark place----they know only (1) the govt as enforcer, and, (2) the individual to be crushed.

Whereas Conservatives are strongly united by love of country----united by a dynamic force of issue-centered groups, associations, churches, military, tea parties, prayer groups, gun pwners, the power of the internet and web sites.......

.......as well as powerful organizing issues----patriotism, gun ownership, pro-lifers, religious freedom/1st amendment.........and on, and on, and on.

Obama's forces of evil refuse to recognize constitutional freedoms. They refuse to adhere to the hallmarks of a democracy---in-place constitutional guarantees.

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The Founders escaped domination and endured horrendous deprivation----they structured our govt to protect the citizenry from tyrants and oppression. The safeguards are there----they merely have to be mobilized.......by we, the people.

77 posted on 03/04/2013 7:40:25 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
That is true, but she can win an election the same as her husband.
89 posted on 03/04/2013 8:12:21 AM PST by OldEagle
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To: Liz

Yet the media and pollsters make it seem like there is an impenetrable class of people who DO admire and respect her. That’s part of the demoralization process - what propaganda does: it makes a person believe that they can’t know the truth and have no idea what the people around them are really like. It isolates people, makes them believe they are alone.

I’d like to believe that Americans have common sense and can see past the media portrayals. But I have no idea what Americans are like any more.

When the videos of Jeremiah Wright came out in 2008 there were people calling in to the talk shows and saying that’s what it means to be a Black “pastor”; this is the kind of preaching that Blacks all over the country are hearing from their “pastors”, and it is “normal” thinking for Blacks. If that is true, it totally blows the picture I’ve had in my ind, which is more like what is portrayed in “To Kill a Mockingbird” or “The Help”. The strength of slaves was their ability to transcend the indignities done to them, which is what genuine Christians have always had to learn to do. I had great respect for the wisdom, patience, and commitment that I believed were characteristic of the majority of Black Baptists, Methodists, etc. But just seeing the response to Jeremiah Wright’s preaching made me realize that I really don’t know anything about it. I have no clue whether the majority of people in that segment of the population are capable of anything except following the charismatic voice of the day.

I hate saying that. It doesn’t apply to just one race, one belief system, one demographic. The same thing is true of EVERYBODY. Unless I’ve spoken directly with somebody and know that they scoff at the media portrayals (propaganda), I have no idea whether they believe in the US Constitution, the ten commandments, truth as a whole, or common sense. Those things were once givens.

As a kid I thought everybody believed like I did. But I’ve seen people who had the same schooling as I had totally give in to lawlessness in the public sphere. Very publicly and defiantly of those who have noted the lawlessness. My cousin, who was an elder at our church and who commiserated with me over the immorality of the world, shortly afterwards fathered a child by somebody else’s wife and to this day is cohabitating with her but refuses to marry. My only classmate in confirmation class is now cohabitating even while she is very involved with church stuff. The superficial trappings are the same as they ever were, but it apparently doesn’t mean anything. All the sermons we sat through about the Word of God being the foundation of our life. When and how did it become simply an antiquated fairy tale to these dear people? I feel like I don’t know them any more. If something so central could become a by-word to them, then what other foundations have crumbled in their lives? Without talking with them very directly, I have no idea what they believe or why. None of the labels mean what they used to mean.

The energy it takes to maintain the kind of closeness that breeds confidence is staggering. We are literally being swept apart by a flood of propaganda that is breaking the foundations. A foundation is made of concrete that holds together. One little person here or there cannot make a foundation. It has to be a large body standing together. We don’t have that any more. Or at least that is the appearance. To find out that the person standing next to us is solid, and to find out that there is a whole mass of solidness, we have to deal with the foundational assaults face to face. At work, at church, at school, at family gatherings... Yet none of those 4 places is considered appropriate for that kind of talk. The alternative is isolation and foundation rot. By making the assault on our foundations taboo for polite discussion, we are guaranteeing isolation - which by nature means that there is NO foundation. A foundation has to be a solid, homogenous core.

My confidence in my fellow Americans is very badly shaken. And I don’t know if it can ever be recovered.


103 posted on 03/04/2013 8:39:34 AM PST by butterdezillion
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