[Nachum]

Obama's care

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[rsobin]

Evidently the dispatcher didn’t get the memo.

[GeronL]

even the old folks homes are following ObamaCare.

I suspect a mad rush of younger people trying to fill that spot with their parents.

[PGR88]

Sorry, but the Ministry of Health does not permit level S-4 drones to perform resuscitation on the useless elderly.

[Servant of the Cross]

The 'policy' of the senior living facility was put in place by an 0bama death panel.

Or his sequester team.

[Joe 6-pack]

The list of people I wouldn’t piss on if they were on fire grows longer daily.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Just remember: Governor Sarah Palin was all wrong when she spoke of death panels!!

[Gay State Conservative]

In the seven-minute, 16-second recording, the nurse told the dispatcher it was against the facility's policy for employees to perform CPR on residents.

I was in "front line" health care for 20 years but have been out now for 20.Back then DNR orders were taken very seriously when issuing them.All the "t's" had to be crossed and all the "i's" dotted.Mental competency had to be determined in many cases.Unless things are much different than I picture them (including such things as California's laws and nurse licensing standards/regulation) somebody's gonna have some 'splainin to do.For an entire health care facility to have such a policy is mind boggling to me but hey...California...the land of fruits and nuts and flakes.

[Last of the Mohicans]

From the American HEART Association: “Only an estimated 8% of victims who suffer a SCA outside of a hospital setting survive.”

[ColdOne]

I am right in the line of fire for obamacare. I upsets me daily. I will be one of the first hit.

[oldbrowser]

"In the event of a health emergency at this independent living community, our practice is to immediately call emergency medical personnel for assistance and to wait with the individual needing attention until such personnel arrives. That is the protocol we followed," the statement said.

I used to do insurance inspections at "assisted living facilities" in California a few years ago and it is standard procedure to call 911 in the event of a medical emergency. Even though the staff are usually certified nurses assistants who have CPR training some facilities do not allow them to perform any procedures on their clients.
Some facilities have been sued for intervening in spite of the Good Samaritan law. So many do not take a chance.

[V_TWIN]

“the nurse said policy did not allow her to”

Must be a union shop

[airedale]

It is a major nursing home chain. I wonder if that is corporate policy or just this site? Are they Obama donors?

[CAluvdubya]

As I understand it, the family of the elderly woman is not contesting the actions of the nurse/facility.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Doesn't a nurse's duty to the Hippocratic oath trump that of hospital policy? I smell a lawsuit coming against that criminally negligent nurse.

Oath: "The health and life of my patient will be my first consideration"

[MadelineZapeezda]

Sorry, I’m sure that patient signed the DNR before they go into an end life facility. You can’t go against their final wishes. This was like this before Obamacare

[GoldwaterCountry]

If it was caused by V-fib or V-Tach a defibrillator could have saved her life, the sooner you shock the better the chances of survival. However, a lot of nursing homes and assisted living facilities don't even carry the automatic defibrillators like you see on the walls of airports. A nursing home I worked at didn't carry one because of “liability reasons.” I suspect they're worried about a lawsuit if a defib is used improperly.

[The Great RJ]

I was an ambulance medic for 20+ years and had my share of CPR calls in nursing facilities. The big question here is did this woman have "Do Not Resuscitate"(DNR) orders. I remember my first defibrillation experience was at a nursing home on a 93 year old woman. The facility was using a temporary nurse service so CPR was initiated. I responded with my squad and we initiated our code protocol. I attempted defibrillation without success. We then loaded her in the ambulance and continued CPR en route to the hospital. The ER doctor quickly declared the woman dead after only a short effort by ER staff. We were subsequently given hell by the doctor who asked why in heavens name would we start a code on a 93 year old woman. She had no chance from the beginning. We got off the hook when we explained CPR was initiated by the nursing home staff before we arrived. The nursing home staff also got an earful from the doctor. Turned out the woman's family had agreed to a DNR order, but the night staff were unaware.

I see a lot of similarities with this situation. Staff may have been hesitant to initiate CPR on an 87 year old and the chances of her surviving even if the CPR had been started is next to zero. Had she been resuscitated there would have been a good chance she would have been brain dead. There comes a point where DNR orders are appropriate.

[sport]

Thankfully it was not my mother because I know where both the “nurse” and I would be. The “nurse” would be in hell and I would be in jail.