They have to close to gun range and as long as you’ve got missiles that’s just not going to be happening.
ya might wanna talk to some F-4 drivers about that there comment...
F-4 Phantom, physical proof that if you put big enough engines in a brick it will fly...
If the stealthy fighter has modern missiles that can lock on to you and nothing you have can lock on to him, you’re in for a very bad day - and he’s not.
I’d also point out that our missiles actually work regularly now, unlike the RandomMissiles hung on the old F-4 back when.
You didn’t need to see the F-4, just follow the exhaust plume.