Posted on 02/27/2013 11:29:39 AM PST by Sub-Driver
America must not "dictate" to world, new defense chief says
2:01pm EST
By Phil Stewart
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Decorated Vietnam veteran Chuck Hagel was sworn in as U.S. defense secretary on Wednesday after a bruising Senate confirmation battle, and promised to renew old U.S. alliances and forge new ones without attempting to "dictate" to the world.
Addressing Pentagon employees shortly after a small, closed-door swearing-in ceremony, Hagel spoke optimistically, if vaguely, about global challenges ahead and the importance of American leadership abroad.
"We can't dictate to the world. But we must engage the world. We must lead with our allies," Hagel said in what appeared to be unscripted remarks.
"No nation, as great as America is, can do any of this alone."
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And that punk Obama needs to stop dictating to me.
What he is saying is that American shouldn’t be the leader of the free world, because it would be unfair.
Why should He save us? Christians sat on their hands save five thousand of us who stood on His Foundations when they took the Commandments out of the public square and subsequently tossed The Father and Christ from the culture.
There is no example in scripture of God 'saving' a people deserving judgment who refuse to repent. The prophets and watchmen suffered right along with the rest of their nation when Israel was destroyed and taken into captivity. Why should we be any different? Every single Apostle was martyred except John, who died in prison on Patmos.
Americans bought into a false gospel of health/wealth/prosperity preaching.
Which makes me wonder how few are going to hold onto their faith when everything we have known our whole lives, and what they built their religion on, is crushed and annihilated?
We suffer Obama and the MarxoFascists because we have sinned as a whole people and abandoned God and His Ways, or at minimum, sat on our hands while the wolves came into the flock and led us all astray.
There is writing on the wall, and the righteous will suffer right along with the unrighteous.
I don’t care a lick about America dictating to the world. I do care about the world dictating to the United States. But what is this administration doing about the masses who have invaded this country illegally? Let them go. And let them take taxpayer monies via public schools and many other ways.
What he’s saying is we won’t interfere with the muslims when they attack Israel. I’d say Israel has one chance. And that is to hit first.
But when any turd world encounters a Tsunami who do they expect to bail out the water? Unk Sammy. When we suffer who helps us? No one, not even our own libs. Go see New York.
When I read your post I think of millions of people in a lake of fire screaming for help.
“When we suffer who helps us? No one, not even our own libs. Go see New York.”
And then there is Horse Face Kerrey. You can count on him to tell it like it ain’t. He disgusts me.
“When we suffer who helps us? No one, not even our own libs. Go see New York.”
And then there is Horse Face Kerrey. You can count on him to tell it like it ain’t. He disgusts me.
And, of course, we are always fair.
My 28 year daughter says God should smite us. I agree.
He’ll stay drunk for the next 3 and half years while this man does the job. Hagel will sign his name to screw Israel, and appease Iran. He’s too damn stupid to actually do anything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Deputy_Secretary_of_Defense
Roger that! Now let’s send some humanitarian aid to the syrian islamists so they can live to kill us later. Good move there hussein.
Hear, O earth! Behold, I will certainly bring calamity on this people— The fruit of their thoughts, Because they have not heeded My words Nor My law, but rejected it. - Jeremiah 6:19
Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded,
Because you disdained all my counsel, And would have none of my rebuke,
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes,
When your terror comes like a storm, And your destruction comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.
“Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.
Because they hated knowledgeAnd did not choose the fear of the Lord,
They would have none of my counsel And despised my every rebuke.
Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, And be filled to the full with their own fancies. Proverbs 1:24-31
"The people in America have now the best opportunity, and the greatest trust, in their hands, that Providence ever committed to so small a number, since the transgression of [Adam & Eve]: if they betray their trust, their guilt will merit even greater punishment than other nations have suffered, and the indignation of heaven". John Adams Grosvenor Square, January 1, 1787
Why do Christians always blame other Christians (and I am referring to Biblical, born again Christians in both instances) for the mess we are in? I am sick of it.
Why didn't you 5,000 change this, just as Elisha stood alone against 600 prophets of Baal? Why weren't you successful in overturning & changing this through whatever you were referring to?
Quit blaming other Christians! There are millions of Christians standing "on His Foundations" and we are getting trounced in every single legislative battle or court battles for the few times that we win in the legislative battles. You're not the only ones standing. I vote, I call, I contribute, I pray... and we're still losing. What more are you doing above other born again, conservative, fundamental & evangelical Christians?
I don't want to sound blasphemous, but in all honesty God is rewarding evil doers such as 0bama & the leftists in unbelieveable ways, both financially & in taking more & more power.
What is it that you recommend that Christians should do to retake & restore our country? We lose most of the legislative battle or court battle that occur. What do you think Christians can or should have done to conclusively reverse the Supreme Court decisions to remove prayer from public schools in 1962, or Roe vs Wade in 1973, or state & federal courts ruling in favor of gay marriage, and a host of other evil satanic court rulings?
I don't understand how God was willing to spare Sodom & Gomorrah for only 10 righteous souls, and yet allowed America to be duped & stolen by 0bama, both in 2008 and in 2012. There were millions of born again evangelical Christians praying, working & contributing in the last election, and instead we got shellacked by the most evil president & socialist demoRAT party in American history.
When conservatives or Repubs such as Gov Scott Walker (WI) along with WI Senate & Assembly Repubs do win the elections, then liberal socialist judges overturn nearly everything that Scott Walker & the WI Repubs have passed over the past 2 years.
The only recourse I see is CW II (or hopefully the Rapture), because we are not winning the battles in legislatures or presidential elections or especially in courts ruling against every conservative or Biblical position, AND we don't seem to be receiving any divine intervention either. We are in Isaiah 5:20 "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter"
But quit blaming Christians! We need some Divine help & intervention against the Satanic forces running rampant in government, courts & local districts. In my own church I have heard II Chron 7:14 quoted a thousand times every year, as if that individual is the only one praying and no one else is. Basically they are blaming other Christians and offer up NOTHING to counter the downward devastation of our country.
From now on, I publicly challenge anyone who blames Christians for the mess we're in and say "What is it that you specifically did to fight & overturn some piece of horrible legislation or court ruling?"
We need either CW II or the Rapture to occur, whichever one comes first.
IOf the USA does not dictate to the world ( the message of freedom), then we must move over. Russia and China will dictate.
Chuck Hagel is a screaming idiot, a place holder for Obama, and Hagel’s main duty will be to fall on his sword when Obama says.
America is no longer a world power.
A new era of US isolationism is about to begin. Viva CHUCK ( you fu_k)
Too Bad. Truth hurts. A II Timothy 3 Generation only wants to hear smooth and easy things.
If you had read the Founders and understood them, you would understand WHY Christians are to blame for losing this culture. Liberty was strictly placed in the bosom of Christianity to uphold and guard - because it's constructs were rooted in the adherence to the Faith and the Commandments. I'm sorry for you that you are too blind to see and understand that.
Why didn't you 5,000 change this, just as Elisha stood alone against 600 prophets of Baal? Why weren't you successful in overturning & changing this through whatever you were referring to?
Biblical misapplication on your part. A remnant is never enough to spare a nation God has given over to judgment. When the cup of iniquity is full, even the servants of God go into captivity. Read your bible, and understand it.
Quit blaming other Christians! There are millions of Christians standing "on His Foundations"
The fruits of our current culture condemn Christians according to the Founders and the bible itself. The church no longer influences the culture - instead the culture influences the church - because MOST exist to please itching ears and fill donation plates for the new building fund.
What more are you doing above other born again, conservative, fundamental & evangelical Christians?
Matthew 28:19&20 in places the Name of Christ has not yet even been heard. The church in America by and large no longer engages in that kind of mission work. The engage in the social gospel, good works - but without insisting on the life changing relationship a people need to have in Christ.
I don't want to sound blasphemous, but in all honesty God is rewarding evil doers such as 0bama & the leftists in unbelieveable ways, both financially & in taking more & more power.
Yes, it's called Judgment. Something our Founders understood in the years before the Revolution. They understood a people suffering the tyranny of evil rulers, was due to a wayward church that had sinned. The Great Awakening and the First Revival were preached, and a nation repented until it was ready to suffer and be given it's breath of freedom.
What is it that you recommend that Christians should do to retake & restore our country?
II Chronicles 7:13 & 14 needs to be preached every week until the church repents and can be a tool towards preaching the same to a sinful nation - WITHOUT ANY COMPROMISE WITH THE SECULAR HEDONISTS.
Persecution will come as a result, and few to none are willing to risk that, much less lose their 501C3 status.
What do you think Christians can or should have done to conclusively reverse the Supreme Court decisions to remove prayer from public schools in 1962, or Roe vs Wade in 1973, or state & federal courts ruling in favor of gay marriage, and a host of other evil satanic court rulings?
Christians in America bought the Satanic lie that it was the worst of sins to judge sin. In adopting the twist of truth that we must 'hate the sin and not the sinner', the secular Left then asserted that the sin defines the sinner, and therefore it is a sin to judge their sin, because the sin is who they are.
What should we have done? The Founders went to war over various tax acts against them. The final straw was the belief in the Colonies that the Brits would force all Christians into the Church of England of whom the king was pope -, and thus stamp out the fires of Independence. The cry of "No King but Jesus!' was the rallying cry for Independence.
There were things a staunch and religious people should have stood to fight for, even to the point of arms. But Righteousness is not one of those things, because as you yourself have said - even the church has bought into the pronouncements of denouncing good as evil and celebrate evil as good.
Americans today seem only willing to fight for abortion rights, beer, cable TV at low prices, welfare handouts and "environmental justice".
I don't understand how God was willing to spare Sodom & Gomorrah for only 10 righteous souls, and yet allowed America to be duped & stolen by 0bama, both in 2008 and in 2012. There were millions of born again evangelical Christians praying, working & contributing in the last election, and instead we got shellacked by the most evil president & socialist demoRAT party in American history.
That is because you refuse to understand or accept that II Timothy 3:5 describes the Christian Church in America. We are become lukewarm at best - and scripture tells us we will be spit out of His mouth - because we are neither hot nor cold (Revelation 3:16-17)
But quit blaming Christians!
NO I WILL NOT. Judgment begins at the house of God and repentance is absolutely necessary if we are to survive as a people. Perhaps you need to stop making excuses to absolve us of our complicity and sins in the loss of our culture. If we taught morality and the proper role of marriage to our kids - abortion would have little use or need. We would have stopped (by force if necessary) the insistence on teaching sin in our schools and making a Godly way of life more important than seeking pleasure for a season.
You need to face an historical and biblical fact. Many wrote the the civil war was the price God exacted of us as a nation for slavery. I believe that is true. If God would allow a bloodbath to pay the price for our sins of slavery - what do you think God is going to exact from America in blood, the extermination of an entire generation of Americans in the womb???
Our nation has been given over to strong delusion (II Thessalonians 2:11). That's a prophecy being fulfilled right before your eyes - but instead you join the chorus of those condemning those who are pointing out the sins of the church and this people - that enabled tyrants to be put in power.
I know it sounds too simple, but it is in fact, the simple truth.
From now on, I publicly challenge anyone who blames Christians for the mess we're in and say "What is it that you specifically did to fight & overturn some piece of horrible legislation or court ruling?"
I was on court steps trying to keep God's Commandments in them. I tried to rally churches to that cause - and few to none would show up for rallies. Few churches would return e-mails or phone calls.
Even now, churches are not interested in hearing testimony or getting involved in foreign mission work outside of whatever they send to prescribed social works. Most churches I talk with, are interested only in the Osteenized version of Christianity and the rest have their doors and windows shut tight.
We need either CW II or the Rapture to occur, whichever one comes first.
We wil have what Jesus described in Matthew 24. The question is, will He find faith on the earth when He returns? I have my doubts the church in America will endure the kind of persecution our brothers and sisters in Christ endure daily in the third world.
But it is coming. Indeed, at the very door judging by the fruits of events.
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