[marktwain]

This is exactly the case. If the political class wants to ignore the Constitution, then they have no legitimacy. They only hold onto power by brute force.

[Cheerio]

The time is drawing nigh, we will not get out of 2016 with the America that we all thought we knew.

[M Kehoe]

Ping.

5.56mm

[null and void]

...it seems almost mandatory.

[smokingfrog]

bttt

We don’t need a constitutional convention.

[murrie]

Ping......
Mr Glenn Reynolds. I like you. I like you a lot. I am proud to hear you are a fellow Tennesseean Yes, the time is drawing nigh....

[JRandomFreeper]

Government rules with the consent of the governed. Even in the old CCCP, when they finally got fed up, it was over. With much less bloodshed than I expected.

/johnny

[Cboldt]

It's not just the Constitution that they ignore ...

It is undoubtedly true that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force or reserve militia of the United States as well as of the states, and, in view of this prerogative of the general government, as well as of its general powers, the states cannot, even laying the constitutional provision in question [the 2nd amendment] out of view, prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms, so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security, and disable the people from performing their duty to the general government.

Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

That from the United States Supreme Court. Now take a look at what one lower court says the Presser case stands for:

Presser stands for the proposition that the right of the people to keep and bear arms, whatever else its nature, is a right only against the federal government, not against the States. The courts are uniform in this interpretation. See, e.g., Thomas, 730 F.2d at 42 (1st Cir.); Peoples Rights Org., 152 F.3d at 538-39 n. 18 (6th Cir.); Quilici, 695 F.2d at 269 (7th Cir.); Fresno Rifle & Pistol Club, 965 F.2d at 730-31 (9th Cir.).

Bach v. Pataki408 F.3d 75 (2d Cir. 2005)

Both courts are talking about the right to keep and bear arms, and the Supreme Court said that this right exists even if the 2nd amendment does not.

The system is corrupt. The legislature is corrupt. The courts are corrupt. The legitimacy of the federal government is exactly the legitimacy that the Mafia holds, brute force.

[Travis McGee]

This is the excerpt from my novel “Foreign Enemies And Traitors” where a character discusses the Con-Con that resulted in the Economic Justice and Democracy Amendment, and the Freedom from Gun Violence Amendment.

Anybody who thinks a Con-Con would make our situation better is very naive, IMHO.

http://matthewbracken.site.aplus.net/FESP.htm

[Secret Agent Man]

if the government can ignore it, the people can, too.

they cant demand we respect their power, esp their unconstitutional powers they’ve taken that they don’t have, and they take away our guaranteed rights.

[philman_36]

Myself, I have the same wary view of a convention that Matt Bracken does.

Just a PING, FRiend.

[matthew fuller]

A three part article I just came across is one of the most significant I have ever seen concerning the state of our destruction. The link to part three is: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/the_endgame_for_the_destruction_of_the_united_states.html

The first paragraph of the article contains links to parts one and two. This is a must read.

[ThunderSleeps]

I swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I, unlike so many political “leaders,” take my oaths seriously. If they abandon the Constitution I will use every means at my disposal to restore it. Every means.

[Road Glide]

“Professor Reynolds suggests a constitutional convention will be the best way out, and indeed, it may be.”

A second Constitutional Convention might become the only way to ensure a peaceful transition from the old DC government, to a new one.

There are those here on FR who say “no, no, NO!” when this subject comes up. Short of an uprising 1861-style, what other alternatives would be preferable?

[phockthis]

sfl

[GeronL]

it seems almost mandatory

Yet another mandate in DC!

[MHGinTN]

“Governments operate, to a degree, by force, but ultimately they depend on legitimacy.” Ah so; perhaps some are beginning to understand why the pirate Roberts was placed at the head of the SCOTUS ... unConstitutional laws must be given an air of legitimacy that the sheeple will accept. But Roberts has proven too quickly that he is under orders from someone not sitting the bench! Sadly, the sheeple will not catch on until it is too late, because the most demonic force, the media, is employed to prevent truth from reaching the people.

[45semi]

Cut down to the specifics, its a helluva powerful statement:

'If you’re the president, member of congress, govt. agent, etc,
the only reason why anyone should listen to what you say,
is because you exercise power via the Constitution'.

'If the Constitution doesn’t count, you don’t have any legitimate power. and should be (forcibly) removed for trying to exercise power you don’t possess'.

[RedHeeler]

Many of us, will not see the day, when Our Republic is re- Constitutionaly established. Regardless, this will happen.

[The Duke]

The problem is that, for all our population, I don’t see a single George Washington.

[RedHeeler]

Many of us, will not see the day, when Our Republic is re- Constitutionaly established. Regardless, this will happen. By the grace of God, and our great efforts now.