Posted on 02/25/2013 6:59:06 AM PST by Kaslin
If nothing else, coal to oil can be processed with natural gas. Heavy hydrocarbon plus light hydrocarbon equals oil. South Africa has been doing this for years. Germany did something similar during the war.
Until recently natural gas was too expensive, but now producers would love to expand the market.
Coal to liquids is not the same as claiming it is coal to oil. They don’t make oil. They make fuels likes kerosene, diesel, etc.
COAL IS SOALR ENERGY!
You heard it here first:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2988229/posts
What would be great is to locate a coal processing plant like this right next door to large greenhouse facility.
Pump that CO2 into the greenhouses - it’s plant food after all...
The author misses the point that carbon dioxide is just an excuse. What they left truly hates is not CO2, but generated energy. And industrialization. And machines, modernity, concrete and refined metal.
What they truly want is the simplicity of primitivism, at least for everyone but themselves. They would be content to have all the benefits of a noble class, ruling over the rest of us as agrarian peasants.
Look at Al Gore, living in a ghastly mansion that consumes enormous amounts of energy, flying about in private jets, driving SUV limousines. etc., ad nauseum. Yet he is filled with sanctimony about how everyone else needs to do with less, be hotter in summer and colder in winter; drive slow and unsafe economy cars with weak engines; not fly at all, etc.
He is a terrible hypocrite, if not to his “nouveau elite” sensibilities; but he is not unique from his peers, other than “winning life’s lottery”, a fortune that he despises in others.
But while Al Gore is cynical beyond belief, the fanatical second tier of his followers are true believers in their faith of agrarian primitivism. People like Earth First! and PETA, who are motivated public pests, funded by elitist pigs like Al and “Ter-ay-sa” Heinz, wife of that lurching fop, the treacherous and cowardly John Kerry.
If scientists succeed in eliminating CO2 emissions, the plants aren’t going to like it.
I hate the idea that anyone is accepting the premise that CO2 is a pollutant and something to be avoided “emitting”.
The earth’s systems buffer and account for fluxuations in atmospheric CO2 quite handily without our interference.
They hate energy, cheap energy, for what reason?
Because it allows the “commoners” to enjoy lifestyles that only the elite “should” enjoy.
It shows you how clueless the left is
Diesel is not made from Coal
The sheeperals just want to feel good about themselves for “saving the erf”.
They don’t really care whether there is an actual threat,
or whether their supported policies actually will do anything to alleviate that threat.
Do you have a "per barrel" estimate of the cost of this process?
None of the above bullcrap add-ons come free. They must make coal burning for electric 2-4 times as expensive. Thus making it non-competitive with natural gas etc. But what do the above researchers care? They got paid for meaningless global warming related research that cannot be deployed on an economic basis in the real world
The good professor should next direct his efforts to extracting energy from human and animal solid waste products.
Then we will get to see what happens when Fan hits the ...
While you are right about natural gas for power plants, I think what he's trying to do is to make fuel oil and diesel, which might be more economic. A liquid fuel has considerably more energy density than natural gas in transportation uses.
Would have been nice if the story had given even an inkling as to how they extract the energy without burning it.
The environ-Wackos will find something wrong if it!!!
Correct. Even if they can get the emissions down to zero the wackos would then be crying about the mining processes.
Clean Diesel from Coal
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/405676/clean-diesel-from-coal/
Synthetic diesel fuel from coal
http://www.energyandclimate.org/synthetic-diesel.html
Gasoline alternative: Synthetic diesel heralds a new era for coal
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/780377ac-1dd2-11e2-8e1d-00144feabdc0.html
It is not a new process. Germany did it to supplement fuel supplies back during WW2.
Diesel Production from Fischer−Tropsch: The Past, the Present, and New Concepts
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ef900064c
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