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Gaining Momentum: Now 44 Gun Companies Have Stopped Selling to Law Enforcement In Anti-2A States
The Blaze ^ | Feb 23, 2013 | Mike Opelka

Posted on 02/24/2013 9:19:05 AM PST by EXCH54FE

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To: Right Wing Assault

“Wha bout China ratest, the Grock,make fo porice?”

I’m going to be laughing about that for days! Thanks! :-D


41 posted on 02/24/2013 12:44:34 PM PST by nodumbblonde ("I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's a** about the clueless." - Dennis Miller)
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To: EXCH54FE

Just sent a very polite email to CZ-USA (CZ is my favorite brand), with a list of the products from them I own, a compliment on their website’s statement supporting the 2nd, and a request to join the reverse-boycott. They list some LEO-only products. No idea how much volume of business it represents, but the longer the list, the more pressure on the “big guns” to join.

I think if everyone contacts their “favorite” firearm brand, let them know how many Rugers (or whatever) you own, and ask them to join in, that can be as persuasive as the threat of a boycott. Not that I mind writing a follow-up nasty-gram, if it comes to that...


42 posted on 02/24/2013 12:51:29 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Communism - a social experiment which, for ethical reasons, should not be performed on live humans)
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To: EXCH54FE

1. GLOCK ...?

2. Sig......?

3. S&W......?

I am a consumer, and I am an AMERICAN.


43 posted on 02/24/2013 12:55:53 PM PST by gaijin
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To: FatherofFive
Yep the power is in the hands of the consumer. For all the major gun and ammunition manufacturers the LE market is about 12-18% of total sales. Glock is slightly higher.

We can do it, call and tell them to stop sales to all of NY State, Police and Citizens. We have to pick one target and NY State is now the perfect target along with Cuomo.

Please read the following and send it along to every one you know:

Time to remind the LEFT-tards the power is the the People, us Gun owners:

Alinsky can work on Communists too! Every please do your part. Call the manufactures and demand they Boycott NY State Sales just like La Rue Tactical and Olympic Arms have!

Pin it all on Andrew Cuomo, make it Personal. We have the power to smack down this Communist bully: Please read the entire list....

Gun Control; Time to Fight

As consumers and 2nd Amendment advocates, we have to engage an economic boycott of all ammunition and firearms covering the entire State of NY; Citizens & Government while pulling an “Alinsky” Andrew Cuomo when executing the boycott. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules for Radicals)

The embargo ends when the current NY Government agrees all NY State Citizens have a 2nd Amendment Right to own any quantity and all types firearms, those made 400 years ago and those to be made in the future!

How

The firearms industry from top to bottom completely terminate sales of a firearms and ammunition to all of NY State, citizens to Government to include the Federal Government offices in NY State till the State of NY recognizes the US Constitution and its own State Constitution starting NOW.

To the Citizens aka Serfs in NY State

You will suffer till you elect representatives that respect the Constitutions. You made your bed, now go lie down in it! If you are a gun owner in NY you are a Serf, and it sucks to be you. If you are a believer
in Gun Control, great! Now your Government will have no guns too! NY Government can continue to prosecute the criminals without guns or ammunition.

To all Government in NY State

You want gun control for your Citizens and Taxpayers? Well the rest of us out here think that concept is flawed. The rest of the Country think you, the Government should be just as restricted or more so restricted than the law abiding taxpayer…….how do you like not having “Assault Rifles”, High Capacity Magazines or no Ammunition now? If it sucks for you Mr & Mrs. Government Employee in NY State……well it sucks to a NY State Citizen under the current laws too!

Respect your citizens/ taxpayer and Constitutions.

To Industry: Time to break the bully’s’ face

Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren will be running on the 2016 Democrat Presidential ticket. With record sales in other markets, there will be zero impact if all NY sales terminated tomorrow. If the NY State Government along with the SAFE act are not reigned in, this cancer will only spread. Time to fight the bully and make the bully understand in no uncertain terms, the 2nd Amendment is very important, has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with citizens/sovereigns reigning in and eliminating out of control Government, foreign or Domestic.

To the Citizens of the “other 56” States

Call every manufacturer of ammunition and firearms and tell them to stand up to Andrew Cuomo and the NY State Government by completely boycotting all sales to NY State till the SAFE Act, Assault weapons ban and any other restrictions to firearms ownership are removed. Respect the 2nd Amendment or pay the consequences. Boycott NY State or we as consumers will boycott your company!

Federal Ammunition, Winchester/OLIN, FN USA, FN Herstal, Remington, Freedom Firearms Group, Colt, S&W, Glock, Lewis Machine Tool, Heckler & Koch, Sig-Sauer… etc.

Call the NRA and every other gun rights organization to support the industry boycott of NY State and make sure that Andrew Cuomo owns it!

Contact them all and tell them you support a NY State Firearms and Ammunition Boycott!

Andrew Cuomo

Mr. Cuomo owns this. Every Answer, every utterance about this initiative is his. This will end his chances for President in 2016.

When NY State Government Officials complain: ANSWER Call Andy…. When NYC Police Commissioner
Ray Kelly and NYC Mayor Bloomberg whines… ANSWER: Call ANDY! When the UN security teams in
NYC complain….. answer Andrew Cuomo…..When hunters in NY complain: ANSWER: Andrew Cuomo….. when non gun owners fear the “cops” will not be armed: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo. When any NY State Citizen comments, complains, or utters any thought about their safety: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo.

If it drags on and a NY Citizen or Police Officer is killed due to no training ammunition the answer is: Andrew Cuomo

When the news media runs a story explaining the criminals gangs think this boycott is great cuz the Po
Po ain’t gots noz bullets…. The answer is Andrew Cuomo

Andrew Cuomo is your fear, Andrew Cuomo is your pain, and Andrew Cuomo is your lack of security…..your lack of ammunition and firearms.. Governor Cuomo can heal that pain….

When Mr. Cuomo buckles: the left will hate him. The Left will punish him

NO negotiations, NO middle of the road,
Nothing but recognition of the Individual Taxpayers Rights to Firearms Ownership

When NY State Government recognizes the Rights of the Citizens, then and only then will sales resume

MAKE EVERY Gun Grabbing Democrat or Republican politician fear being “Coumo’d” by Taxpayers that believe in the Second Amendment.

The Common Sense Solution is already in place: Current NY State Constitution ARTICLE XII*
DEFENSE
[Defense; militia]
Section 1. The defense and protection of the state and of the United
States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature
shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized.

For clarity and intent here is the original language from 1777

XL. And whereas it is of the utmost importance to the safety of every State that it should always be in a condition of defence; and it is the duty of every man who enjoys the protection of society to be prepared and willing to defend it; this convention therefore, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, doth ordain, determine, and declare that the militia of this State, at all times hereafter, as well in peace as in war, shall be armed and disciplined, and in readiness for service.

(just a small observation: As read, the citizens of NY State should be fully armed “the duty of every man” , not the NY State Government or any Employee that takes a pay check from TAX REVENUE. Right now, it is completely backwards! NY State should be more like Switzerland of 2012 and less like Nazi Germany of 1938.)

And

US Constitution 2nd Amendment, which by the way is now in been affirmed as incorporated and defined to protect the individual’s right to own firearms, via the Heller decision

If a citizen and Militia member in NY cannot own it, can neither a NY State Government Agency nor
Employee. That is common sense and that is the current Constitution!

Make Mr. Cuomo recognize that fact. See the rules below and start making Andy Cuomo’s political life painful or we will be dealing with him and his venal ilk in 2016!

Addendum:

The rules

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

How: NY State Boycott of all arms and ammunition, starting with NY State Government, local
Government and all NY State Citizens/Taxpayers/Serfs

RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

We all know firearms and the Second Amendment. Time to say NO to the Bullies in NY State!

RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

NY State Government will be clueless on how to handle a boycott by Industry initiated by Taxpayers from the other “56” States.

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

No Rights to own Firearms for Citizens = No Rights, exemptions, or any other weasel language to possess
Firearms or ammunition for Government Employees anywhere in NY

If a NY State Citizen cannot buy the firearms/magazines/ammunition…. Nor can a Government Entity or
Government Employee in NY State

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It is irrational. It is infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Call Andrew Cuomo, he owns: your lack of Rights, your lack of security, or lack of ammunition or lack of firearms

RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more.
They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

For those of us outside of NY State: More product available and we end this gun control issue for a while

For those in NY State: Think of this as Chemo-therapy for gun control cancer; the process is not very enjoyable, but the results of killing off the gun control cancer are worth it.

Enjoy watching the NY State bureaucrats squirm and fuss

Enjoy watching the anti- gun types freak when the Government is not armed either! Que Mike Bloomberg, NY Police Union types and the UN idiots “guns for our security now! While leaving the taxpayers un-armed”

ENJOY ANDREW COUMO GET POUNDED ON ALL SIDES and watch his 2016 chances go away!

RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.

Start this MONTH, it won’t last long!

Abe Lincoln took on slavery, so let us free taxpayers that enjoy firearms and the 2nd Amendment from being treated like Dred Scott honor Mr. Lincoln and start the BOYCOTT on 12 February 2013!

Call or e-mail every manufacturer of firearms and ammunition and demand they BOYCOTT all sales to NY STATE! Call and/or e-mail the NRA, NSSF, and SAMMI and demand they support a BOYCOTT of all firearms and ammunition to NY State to begin on February 12, 2013 starting with the NY State Government due to ANDREW Cuomo!

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

The Boycott Ends when LAWS are repealed, not amended, not replaced…REPEALED and Law Abiding
Citizens & Taxpayers RIGHTS are recognized

RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

NOT A THREAT. DEMAND a total BOYCOTT and make sure Andrew Cuomo owns it!

RULE 10: “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.

The enraged Parties such as the NY State Police, Local Police, Government Employee Unions and finally
Citizens/Serf will be plenty of pressure on Mr. Cuomo.

RULE 11: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

Common Sense will prevail

RULE 12: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

No Compromise: The answers & solutions are already in place, the NY State Constitution and the US Constitution

RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

ANDREW COUMO

44 posted on 02/24/2013 12:56:36 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Introducing the Happy Lucky Dog Food and Gun Fabrication Corp. of Shanghai PRC “Grock” 9 (+/- 1) mm - guaranteed to shoot nearly an entire magazine before disintegrating!!


45 posted on 02/24/2013 12:56:46 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Communism - a social experiment which, for ethical reasons, should not be performed on live humans)
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To: Labyrinthos

Amen. Have everyone you know and every gun club in your area call these companies and simply state: I will not purchase another (insert company name) till all sales to NY State period, citizens and any Government agency in NY State are halted. I the consumer will purchase said products when your company does that! When NY State changes their laws please resume your sales. This is all Andrew Cuomo’s fault by the way. Thank you !


46 posted on 02/24/2013 1:00:56 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: cripplecreek

Cut off all sales, the most important one is ammunition.

Make everyone in NY State suffer. The market has the power. CAll and e-mail the ammunition makers today! Cut off NY state, top to bottom.


47 posted on 02/24/2013 1:03:25 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Redcloak

Add Ammo2U to that list


48 posted on 02/24/2013 1:05:06 PM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: EXCH54FE

That is fantastic and I never would have guessed/thought of this.


49 posted on 02/24/2013 1:13:13 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: ProudFossil

I used to pick up NORINCO ammo when I could get it - importation was banned by daddy Bush and I’m not so sure it still isn’t - some dealers smuggle it in from Canada I think.
It’s some of the best, cleanest, most powerful, reliable and accurate milsurp ammo I have ever used.

Bush banned the importation of Chicom firearms (also NORINCO brand) at the same time. He was no friend of the 2A as far as I can tell, although he was otherwise quite cozy with the Chicoms.

If our Deer Leeder can nationalize GM, why can’t he do the same for S&W, Colt, or any of the other ones if he wants to? If they don’t want to be taken over by the fascists in charge (or nationalized by the communist in charge) they won’t go playing games like shutting off the jackboots who serve the regime.

These dissident suppliers may very well be made examples of in the near future.

If a bakery can be sued out of existence for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a homo couple, or a photographer can be bankrupted for refusing to take pictures of a gay wedding, what makes us think that these gun or accessory producers / retailers are going to get away with such “discrimination” against the government?

That which a tyrant cannot control, they must destroy... and they usually do wherever they can get away with it.

Would not be surprised if some of these dissenters get a little surprise visit from the federal gestapo like Gibson Guitars did. I wonder what bribe they failed to pay?

Would not be surprised if some of the jackboot’s weapons “accidentally” went off into the backs of some of the owners and CEO while they are being strip searched in front of their terrified employees.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Executives get SWATTED at zero dark thirty, and at least have their dogs shot and homes ransacked as a “warning”.

The jackboots are confident that no one will dare resist or retaliate, and they are probably right.

We’ll just wait and see how long this outbreak of dissent lasts.


50 posted on 02/24/2013 1:29:24 PM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: George Varnum
We’ll just wait and see how long this outbreak of dissent lasts.

But only one presidency ago, dissent was patriotic. Why should there such a problem with dissent now? /s


51 posted on 02/24/2013 2:15:16 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Problem is, with the exception of Cheaper Than Dirt, Midway and Barrett, I doubt if most of the guys on the list have any government or law enforcement contracts to begin with.

Yep, the lion's share of the government contracts go to companies like GT Distributors. Many similar companies aren't even listed as gun dealers - just "public safety suppliers".

52 posted on 02/24/2013 2:21:43 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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“Bush banned the importation of Chicom firearms...”

I believe it was klintoon who did that in response to a plot by the chicoms/norinco (same-same) and one of their importers to sneak a batch of full-auto capable AK’s into the USA. Oops!

He banned rifles, handguns, and ammo but interestingly forgot to ban shotguns. You can still see chicom rip-offs of American shotguns at websites like Gun Broker.


53 posted on 02/24/2013 2:30:51 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Labyrinthos
We need to put our money where are mouths are and stop buying from any company that sells to LEO in gun grabbing states.

Agreed. I am in the market for a high-powered rifle and have dropped the Remington 700 line out of consideration because they seem to be choosing to stay in New York.

I need to send them a letter to that effect.

54 posted on 02/24/2013 5:20:34 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: lump in the melting pot

Love the “9 (+/- 1) mm” part! And Happy Lucky Dog.


55 posted on 02/24/2013 6:59:32 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: nodumbblonde

Your welcome. I always like to try to dish up a good laugh. There are always plenty of setups floating around on FR.


56 posted on 02/24/2013 7:21:41 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

You’re...


57 posted on 02/24/2013 7:23:06 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Looks like Beretta is going to leave MA.


58 posted on 02/24/2013 8:40:57 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: George Varnum
If our Deer Leeder can nationalize GM, why can’t he do the same for S&W, Colt, or any of the other ones if he wants to?

GM was on the ropes, financially, the takeover was a byproduct of the bailout, and the unions made out like fat rats at taxpayer (and investor) expense.

The firearms manufacturers aren't in such a bind at the moment.

Bush banned the importation of Chicom firearms (also NORINCO brand) at the same time. He was no friend of the 2A as far as I can tell...

Daddy Bush also signed the law which shut off the supply of newly manufactured full-auto firearms to the general public (with NFA compliance), which has caused the price of full auto capable firearms to rise ridiculously.

I do not consider him a friend of the 2nd.

Would not be surprised if some of these dissenters get a little surprise visit from the federal gestapo like Gibson Guitars did. I wonder what bribe they failed to pay?

Gibson is/was the only non-union guitar shop in the country out of the major brands.

Anything which even appears to be retaliation against the execs of the companies involved is just that much more against the regime.

We’ll just wait and see how long this outbreak of dissent lasts.

This is just one event along the way, if the administration doesn't back down. Depending on how hard they push, things could take 20 years to come to a head, or more--or a lot less. It took 30 for the last war to get going, from protests in statehouses to the first shot fired in anger.

For now, though, peaceful means are essential. Let the Left continue to get more shrill--they shed moderates as they go.

59 posted on 02/25/2013 5:33:31 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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FYI — The offical sidearm of the New York State Troopers is the Glock 37 (.45 GAP and each patrol car carries a Rem 870 Shotgun (or at least they used to). The NYS SWAT/ESU primarily uses Cold AR-15 and Savage 10.

The official/approved sidearms for the New York City Police Department are Glock, Sig, and S & W. The shotgun of choice is the Mossberg 590 and the SWAT/ESU units use Colt AR-15’s.

New York State — being the police state that it is — has multiple, overlapping law enforcement departments at the Federal, State, and Local Level, each of which has the aurthority to independently procure and issue weapons for their members. Here is a partial historical list of the weapons used by many NYS LE departments: https://sites.google.com/site/worldinventory/pw_newyork. Although I don’t have the time or resources to research and verify the waepons currenlty used by each department, I’m willing to bet that based upon this list, Glock, Sig, S & W, Barretta, Colt, Mossberg, and Remington arm 98% or more of the LE departments in New York.

(Note that while I have independently verified som


60 posted on 02/25/2013 5:39:09 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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